Paul's Passing Thoughts

Doublespeak

Posted in Uncategorized by Andy Young, PPT contributing editor on November 29, 2017

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  1. John said, on November 29, 2017 at 3:38 PM

    For a smile or two:

    a) http://markcbuffy.blogspot.co.za/2006/05/doublespeak-funny.html

    b) I don’t endorse this site, but I find this list hilarious:

    https://blog.savetheperishing.com/114-contradictions-from-calvinists/

    Typical doublespeak (trickery) during a Calvinist “church” on a Sunday: “Please join us for tea after the service.” And then, after the service, there is some tea and also some shady characters who are handing out Paul Washer DVDs, the blasphemer RC Sproul’s books, and lots of free MacArthur stuff.

    But seriously, as Andy has pointed out in #2 above, doublespeak is what these people do. It is a technique which they are taught for real. Oh, what upstanding, honest pillars of the land of darkness.

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    • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on November 29, 2017 at 4:58 PM

      Those are great. I’m pretty sure we all have encountered one or more or all of them at some point. I guess what they say is true: truth is stranger than fiction, and this stuff would make for good comedy writing if it weren’t so sad. No wonder Christians get ridiculed so much. Everybody else can see right through the farce.

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      • John said, on November 29, 2017 at 5:42 PM

        Andy, so many people live in bubbles and are so cut off from reality that they simply cannot understand that there is life out there. When atheists like Dawkins attacks “Christianity,” he is actually attacking the “god” of Calvinism, whoever that might be, you know? That “god” is a sitting duck, and I don’t and can’t blame Dawkins and friends for having a field day with fake “Christianity.”

        Just this past weekend there was an “interfaith Christian” get-together to “pray” for peace. Huh? Who did all those people pray to? They deserve to be ridiculed, sad to say. During this joke of an event, an Archbishop of the Anglican “church” proudly proclaimed that everyone (note: everyone) is a child of God. Just like that.

        But, yes, that second list is funny but true. “Doublespeak 101,” as Paul Dohse would probably say.

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  2. br.d said, on March 7, 2018 at 9:33 AM

    Great web-page!!
    Yes Calvinists are tutored in double-speak, because they are tutored in double-think.
    John Calvin’s fundamental assertion is that Calvin’s god determines ALL things (without exception) which come to pass, and in EVERY part.

    However, Calvin understands the cognitive dissonance this doctrine produces.
    If one’s every neurological impulse is predestined – then every thought/choice/desire occurs by factors beyond one’s control. If one therefore has a sinful thought – then it logically follows – Calvin’s god first-conceived that sinful thought and somehow actualized it within one’s brain by factors outside of one’s control.

    In order to compensate the mental distress Calvin knew this doctrine produces, he taught his disciples to -quote
    “go about your office AS-IF nothing is determined in any part”.

    The Calvinist is to believe [A] = true. But then go about his daily interactions as-if [NOT A] = true.
    That is double-think, pure and simple.
    And double-think when expressed becomes double-speak.

    Over a period of sociological conditioning, the Calvinist learns to assimilate a library of double-speak.
    If it weren’t for double-speak, Calvinism would loose all credibility in the general Christian population.
    Calvinist language is the language of double-speak – and a look at Calvinism’s psychology should allow us to understand why.

    Blessings! :-]

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    • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on March 7, 2018 at 10:30 AM

      Well said.
      This of course violates Aristotel’s first law of identity, where “A” cannot be both “A” and “Not A”.

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      • br.d said, on June 25, 2018 at 12:05 PM

        Yes Andy – very correct!
        And Aristotle also spoke concerning determinism and how it eradicates what he called “up to us”.
        If everything occurs (consistent with determinism) as our inevitable, unavoidable fate, by antecedent factors from the remote past, which are outside of our control, then nothing we think/desire/deliberate/do is “up to us”.

        Psychologists and behavioral scientists looking at this speak of the human Phenomenological Model. (i.e., human consciousness and the objects of direct experience). The human brain produces the perception that at Time-T, multiple options (obey vs disobey for example) exist as REAL options accessible for us to choose.

        While determinism stipulates only one unique “settled” future is available to us. It is a logical impossibility for Calvin’s god to “render certain” both [A] and [NOT A] at the same time – because these would negate each other. So only one of these is can exist as available to us from which to choose. Making it the case that for all deliberations, there is always one inevitable, unavoidable choice for us to make. And yet our phenomenological model is such that our brains perceive multiple options OPEN to us. (hence Open theism)

        Calvin’s embrace of determinism: Its dilemma starts with Adam’s choice in the garden. If Adam perceived two options as OPEN to him (obey vs disobey) when the reality was only one of these was immutability decreed before he was born – then it follows Calvin’s god deceived Adam into believing an illusion – perhaps to deceive Adam into holding himself accountable for a choice that was not “up to him”.

        Calvin wants to follow the pattern of the language he sees within scripture, the preponderance of which assumes God gives us multiple choices from which to choose which exist as REAL. Calvin knows if he departs from this model of language – no one will take him seriously. So he embraces double-think. Calvin’s god determines all things AS-IF he doesn’t.

        Calvinists actually have a love-hate relationship with determinism. They assert and glory in it when it comes to good events, and seek to deny and evade it for evil events.

        This double-think is necessary for Calvinism to be psychologically sustainable.

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