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WadeWatch Continues to Foster Burleson Nonsense

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on August 19, 2013

tanc logo block“Deb and Dee, that cold one is for you. That’s what you promote when you give credence to the likes of Wade Burleson.”

 

I believe Deb and Dee over at WadeWatch are Southern Baptists. As a Southern Baptist myself, I take great comfort in knowing that we are too doctrinally dumbed down to be completely take over by the New Calvinist movement. Wade Burleson, a kinder, gentler New Calvinist like Joseph Prince, may not be as much of a threat as I once feared in that venue.

The thing that drives me batty about Burleson is his make it up as you go theology. This ministry has already called him out on forming a theology based on a post-biblical Greek word. He shortly thereafter changed the subtitle on his blog that was the focus of our criticism. His former subtitle was a lame attempt to make a case for Redemptive Historical hermeneutics which is not just a mode of biblical interpretation, but Martin Luther’s epistemology for interpreting reality itself. Luther rejected the idea that reality is interpreted grammatically, but rather through redemption. This leads to a Gnostic indifference to human suffering and a devaluing of a sense of justice. Though Burleson’s behavior is un-Neo-Calvinist like, he shares their ideology.

Apparently, to the orgasmic delight of WadeWatch, Burleson actually posts comments on that blog from time to time and I was sent a particular one the other day. In regard to the usual burloney, it did not disappoint:

God makes His love for us so captivating, so alluring, so charming, so dazzling, so enthralling, so mesmerizing, so spellbinding (gospel comes from “good spell”), so magnetizing, so enrapturing, so gripping, so compelling, so hypnotizing, and so absolutely “sweep me off my feet” enamoring that I cannot, I must not, and I will not refuse, though I have the power to do so.

Where to start? Burleson makes salvation some road to Damascus event instead of a belief in the simple facts of the gospel. His kinship to the despicable John Piper is seen here in that Piper teaches that one is not saved unless he/she experiences Christ as an immense “treasure chest of joy.” I once knew a young man that I witnessed to who was being counseled by a certified NANC counselor who held to this view. This young man was living in the very bottom of human depravity. I later heard that he prayed on his knees for hours, begging God to save him while waiting on some ultra-joy experience. Deb and Dee, that cold one is for you. That’s what you promote when you give credence to the likes of Wade Burleson.

Much could be discussed in regard to this excerpt, the excellent points made by the reader notwithstanding, but I tend to have a special hankering for Burleson in regard to his make it up as you go theology. In this case, the idea that the “gospel” carries the idea of being put under a spell. Really? Am I here right now? Somebody google, “Gospel, Burleson, Cupid” and see if we get lucky.

The fact that Burleson would assign “gospel” a meaning from the spelling of the word long after the Bible was written, and on top of that not even the meaning of it at the time it was spelled that way to make a point speaks for itself. This is the same type of shenanigans that we have called him out on before. Here is the citation from Online Etymology Dictionary:

gospel (n.)

Old English godspel “gospel, glad tidings announced by Jesus; one of the four gospels,” from god “good” (see good) + spel “story, message” (see spell (n.)); translation of Latin bona adnuntiatio, itself a translation of Greek euangelion “reward for bringing good news.”

The first element of the Old English word had a long “o,” but it shifted under mistaken association with God. The word passed early from English to continental Germanic languages in forms that clearly indicate the first element had shifted to “God,” e.g. Old Saxon godspell, Old High German gotspell, Old Norse goðspiall. Used of anything as true as the Gospel from mid-13c. Gospel-gossip was Addison’s word (“Spectator,” 1711) for “one who is always talking of sermons, texts, etc.”

The first element of the Old English word had a long “o,” but it shifted under mistaken association with God. The word passed early from English to continental Germanic languages in forms that clearly indicate the first element had shifted to “God,” e.g. Old Saxon godspell, Old High German gotspell, Old Norse goðspiall. Used of anything as true as the Gospel from mid-13c. Gospel-gossip was Addison’s word (“Spectator,” 1711) for “one who is always talking of sermons, texts, etc.”

“Spel,” even when it was spelled that way long after the Bible was written,  meant “story” or a “message,” not like a magic spell of some sort. Good grief.  Now, true, I allow the Burlesons of the world to comment on PPT, but that’s for comparison and contrast, not endorsement.

And this is a great Segway into my idea for Deb and Dee. They could get rid of Burleson over time and not lose credibility. See, I don’t dislike them at all, just trying to help here. All they have to do is start disagreeing with him here and there when he comments on WadeWatch. Everybody disagrees with each other from time to time, right? So, they could ratchet this up slowly over time. They could eventually start treating him like Alex Guggenheim.

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  1. Argo's avatar Argo said, on August 20, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    A Mom,

    I was reading on the Two Abuse thread at Wartburg and made a comment about some of Wade’s egregious statements to “Gene”. Of course Dee and Deb did not post it because it criticizes the Pastor, whom Dee and Deb fawn over with all the allegiance of good little reformed proselytites.

    Have you noticed how there are no negative comments about Wade ever seen over there anymore? Scary.

    Anyway, I will post my comments and observations on my blog today, if you are interested.

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  2. lydiasellerofpurple's avatar lydiasellerofpurple said, on August 20, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    “I have friends that aren’t Calvinists but they make Calvinistic statements like “God is sovereign, God’s got it all under control, God can change so&so’s heart if He wants to” & I gently say why I disagree. But we love each other dearly. And they are honorable, decent & good Christians. Part of the problem is that Calvin-speak is so ingrained in the church culture where I live. It’s that way in non-Calvinistic churches. And amazingly, when I really started to listen up, I noticed unbelievers use deterministic language as well. So although some use these types of phrases (they do so in a thoughtless way) they don’t actually live that way or believe it.”

    A mom, thanks for pointing that out. You are so right. in the seeker mega world anything that went right in your life was a “God thing” but the wrong things were ignored and no one talked about them in depth. So there was the same sort of thinking but not taken as far as the Calvin construct.

    These “God things” could be getting a new home, a new job, having a baby, etc. All the things that man has the ability to accomplish. There is nothing inherently wrong with giving God credit for good but what about the guy sitting next to them in SS class who just lost his job? Did God not like him enough? What about the couple whose baby was born dead? God not like them as much as the couple who had a healthy baby?

    People do not think this stuff through at all and do not realize how much they alienate their brothers and sisters in Christ with this silliness.

    As for me, I have taken the road that it is VERY dangerous to attribute just anything and everything to God. And I am teaching my children the same. We could very well be taking His name in Vain attributing something we THINK is good (like a big new church building) that is not pleasing God at all.

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  3. A Mom's avatar A Mom said, on August 20, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    “These “God things” could be getting a new home, a new job, having a baby, etc. All the things that man has the ability to accomplish. There is nothing inherently wrong with giving God credit for good but what about the guy sitting next to them in SS class who just lost his job? Did God not like him enough? What about the couple whose baby was born dead? God not like them as much as the couple who had a healthy baby?”

    I 100% agree. And we don’t really know the back-story, do we? A new home, but over-leveraged? A new job, but at what price? Relaxing standards?

    And some of these things are rightly earned, good. But sometimes not. So when things don’t come easily to a responsible couple who live out high moral standards & follow Jesus, they think they’ve done something wrong or that God isn’t pleased with them. They become discouraged & even question if they have enough faith. You are right, they do feel alienated. Not good.

    I’ve heard this & it’s heartbreaking.

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  4. A Mom's avatar A Mom said, on August 20, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    Argo, Thanks for the heads-up. I am interested.

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