Paul's Passing Thoughts

Helping the Confused

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on May 26, 2023

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  1. Gary Lubstoff said, on May 26, 2023 at 7:05 PM

    You make no distinction between Magesterial Protestantism and Radical Reformation Protestantism. Do the Anabaptists and Mennonites teach this? What you call Protestantism is Luther and Calvin, and I lnow not what Zwingli even taught. Have you ever read Menno Simons? His teaching is very different. You should read Menno Simons (Mennonite) and see if indeed all of Protestantism teaches this, or just Evangelicals (those who follow seminaries who follow Luther and Calvin).

    “Ordinary means of grace” is after all high church terminology that of the baby baptizers exclusively, i.e. Anglican, Presbyterian, Lutheran. Baptists are supposed to view the Lord’s Supper and Baptism merely as “ordinances” not as sacramenta nor means of grace. But why do some view it the way the baby baptizers do? Because by not having the balls to clearly label Calvinism a heresy Baptist ministers allow baby baptizing modes of thought to creep in.

    Now think about this: Tertullian in 208 or so said he opposed infant baptism because “why should the innocent period of life hasten to the remission of sins.” Baptism has some connection with remission of sins, and infants have no sin. But wait, Baptists have accepted through Calvin that infants have sin. Menno Simons says plainly they do not. Now how do Baptists even maintain their credobaptism? If infants have sin, why do they not baptize them? In 20 years they probably will.


    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on May 27, 2023 at 8:13 AM

      There are no differences regarding the basic tenets of justification between the Westminster Confession and the London Baptist Confession. And why do churches have laws (soft term: “ordinances”)? What do these laws state? And why are they necessary?


      • Gary Lubstoff said, on May 28, 2023 at 12:55 AM

        I think I initially missed the point you were trying to make about laws, aka ordinances, and my response is this:

        I don’t think they mean “ordinances” in the sense of laws. In the KJV “ordinance” is used in places where it would have been more clear to say “ceremonies.” Paul uses it of the ceremonies of the law. For instance, Colossians 2:14 “Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;” meaning abolishing the ceremonies of the Old Testament. Hebrews 9:1 “Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.” i.e. ceremonies of divine service.

        In the Old Testament itself, Leviticus 18:4 “Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the Lord your God.” Judgements essentially means moral commandments and ordinances ceremonial. So the London Baptist Confession is using the term “ordinance” in this sense, i.e. ceremonies, and that should be made more clear by them saying there are two, baptism and the Lord’s Supper. Of course the Westminster Confession just says “sacraments” not “ordinances” thus using Rome’s word for ceremonies which implies a magical power to the ceremonies.


      • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on May 29, 2023 at 5:02 AM

        Christ didn’t die to save us from ceremonies; he died to save us from the law.


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