Paul's Passing Thoughts

Justification by New Birth Versus the False Under-Law Gospel of Justification by Faith

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on July 24, 2021

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  1. coc where you ought to be said, on July 24, 2021 at 6:26 PM

    Justification by faith alone to get baptized, and then justification by believers baptism (aka new birth). That is what is truly scriptural because Acts 15 is about justification by faith alone to get baptized and Acts 2:38 justification by baptism (which is of water and Spirit at once).

    Those who oppose my definition of it here will also oppose your less articulated version.

    Also the churches that understand it this way didn’t lock down.


    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on July 25, 2021 at 7:37 AM

      Water baptism does not save you. In Acts, the Spirit fell on people when they believed.


      • john the baptist not Baptist which are heretics said, on July 26, 2021 at 5:54 PM

        Not in Acts 2. That was only on the apostles, or possible the 120, not the 2 thousand who got baptized. Stop being a hwretic, heretic. Your antibaptism mantra damns you to hell.


  2. going to hell to be with Baptist granny said, on July 26, 2021 at 6:21 PM

    bapyism is rebirth of water and Spirit (john 3.5) b3cause it is the only place both water and Spirit are operative at the same time (acts 2.38). When one is baptized as a believer in eater they receive the Spirit. As in Acts 2. In Acts 10 the order was reversed only to show a miracle to Peter that the Judaizers with him could not gainsay to prove Gentiles can be baptized eithout circumcision. You deny this only from vain pride in Baptist false theology and think you will rule in hell rather than serve in heaven so you gladly go to hell for the antibaptism lie of your Baptist forebears pwrhaps because you want to go to hell with unbaptized gradnmother who died kicking and screaming cursing baptism and saying its not necessary. This is why any Baptist remains a Baptist heretic. “My granny wasnt baptized and she is in heaven.” No she is not. She rejected the truth knowingly; she read Acts 2 but rejecting on purpose and you are repeating that so you will join her in hell. What a family reunion!


    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on July 27, 2021 at 8:54 AM

      So, how did the the thief on the cross get to heaven?


      • john the baptist keeps winning against Baptists said, on July 28, 2021 at 4:06 PM

        Did the thief on the cross live in a transitional period when there was no New Testament written and also Jesus hadn’t even rose from the dead yet or did he live today? Also if you can read, “all Judea and all Jerusalem went out to be baptized by John” and so everyone back then was actually baptized with only the Pharisees as an exception because John refused to baptize them when they came “who warned you to flee rhe wrath to come? you generation of vipers!”


      • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on July 28, 2021 at 4:35 PM

        Also if you can read, John’s baptism of Christ “fulfilled all righteousness.” Baptism was a longstanding Jewish tradition; it was nothing new.


      • was Johns baptism from God or men said, on July 28, 2021 at 6:51 PM

        Tis a Baptist heretic lie. Show me baptism in the Old Testament! And why the argument with the Pharisees over whether Johns baptism from from heaven or men? if the Pharisees accepted baptism? They didnt. John the baptist wins again against Baptist heretic that besmirch his name while calling themselves after him. “There was a man come from God; his name was John” John says, not “there was a man come from Jewish tradition” and Jesus says “ot all those born of women no prophet has arisen greater than John the baptist.” But you Baptists like the Pharisees say “John’s baptism was from men.” You are self condemned because you literally side with the Pharisees against Jesus. “By whose authority do you do these things?” “I will also ask you a question: Johns baptism was it from God or men?” “We cannot say.” At least they tried to avoid the question whereas you boldly say it was from men! But Jesus says it was from God.


      • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on July 29, 2021 at 10:11 AM

        What is it to me that is between you and God? If you want to believe people are saved by water baptism, go believe it and leave me alone. Paul asked the Galatians if they received the Spirit by believing or works of the law. Oddly, he passed on the opportunity to mention what you believe saves a person. With that said, be sure of this, no more of your comments will be posted here.


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