Paul's Passing Thoughts

A Conversation Between a Biblicist and a Calvinist

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on August 20, 2019

Biblicist: So, let me get this straight. A man can choose to make a wise decision like not running a red light, but he can’t choose God?

Calvinist: His choice is self-motivated; he doesn’t want to suffer the consequences of running a red light. Man cannot make a righteous choice, nor can he choose God.

Biblicist: But Christ, as well as the apostle John, called on people to believe in order to escape hell. That’s a good idea, no?

Calvinist: But again, the motive is self-preservation.

Biblicist: But, I thought if a man sees himself as a sinner, he can be saved.

Calvinist: Right.

Biblicist: So, if the motive is to escape hell, doesn’t that mean he knows that he deserves to go there? Doesn’t this belief enable him to make a wise decision/choice accordingly?

Calvinist: You are confusing practical worldly wisdom with spiritual wisdom.

Biblicist: What’s the difference?

Calvinist: One is worldly, one is spiritual.

Biblicist: So, what is practical and wise in the world is completely disconnected from spiritual wisdom? The worldly wise are no spiritual good, and vice versa.

Calvinist: Right, until a man is born of the Spirit, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Biblicist: So basically, two realities?

Calvinist: Right.

Biblicist: And unless God regenerates, worldly wisdom has no benefit. Worldly practicality has no spiritual use or application.

Calvinist: Correct.

Biblicist: That’s Gnosticism. It completely disconnects knowledge in the material world from the spiritual world.

Calvinist: No it isn’t.

Biblicist: How is it not?

Calvinist: I heard Al Mohler say in a conference Q&A that Gnosticism is error.

Biblicist: So, If Al says it’s bad, that eliminates the possibility that Calvinism is Gnosticism?

Calvinist: He has been called the most intelligent Evangelical of this age.

Biblicist: Would that be this world or the other one, and is that worldly intelligence or spiritual intelligence, and from which view was that assessment made?

Calvinist: I don’t know.

Biblicist: Then how do you know that you’re not a Gnostic?

Calvinist: I already told you; Al Mohler says Gnosticism is error.

Biblicist: I see, or maybe I don’t.

Calvinist: If you obey an orthodox leader, that means you see.

Biblicist: Good grief!

paul

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  1. lydia00 said, on August 22, 2019 at 2:12 PM

    I think the reason why the doctrinally arrogant young restless and reformed movement transferred to social justice warring is because it started on the internet and died on the internet. Too many questions and good arguments refuting it. It ended up as satire and a very short walk to Islam.

    With social justice they can just brag about how compassionate they sound.

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