Paul's Passing Thoughts

Life After Church

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on April 26, 2018





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  1. Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on April 26, 2018 at 12:31 PM

    What a fantastic post! Obviously this was from someone on Facebook. Is there more to this thread?


  2. John said, on April 26, 2018 at 1:14 PM

    Great stuff. Keep on praying, people! The enemy must fall, and God’s family must start gathering together and spread His love and witness about Jesus, just as He has asked us to.

    What’s this meeting in million-dollar (and ugly to boot because they went for the hipster architect, of course) buildings that have coffee shops, supertube rides, and Calvin theme parks? That’s another gospel; another Jesus . . . evil.


  3. Argo said, on April 26, 2018 at 5:47 PM

    Regular gatherings of church members not sponsored by the leadership are not encouraged…never that I can remember from my days in the SGM meat grinder. This makes complete sense once you understand the metaphysics the church accepts regarding man’s innate ability—or rather, lack thereof—to apprehend truth. It’s an inevitable orgy of insouciant sin, you see, when anyone not possessing the divine gnosis attempts to think independently. How this makes the “saved” any different from the “unsaved” is anyone’s guess. Until you realize, that is, and as Paul so aptly explains on this blog, that the church doesn’t actually believe in salvation at all.


    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on April 26, 2018 at 9:36 PM

      Well, as stated black and white orthodoxy…salvation by pleasing the church.


      • Argo said, on April 27, 2018 at 9:18 AM

        Ah…so “salvation” is a euphemism for “slavery”. Lol…no wonder there were so many “mandatory-but-volunteer-free-labor-for-the-church” weekends. I guess all those sparkling urinals are the empirical evidence of preaching the gospel to myself every day.

        Truth is always stranger than fiction. SMH


      • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on April 27, 2018 at 4:45 PM

        Right. All that time you thought you were simply appealing to some sense of altruism when in reality you were sacrificing yourself in order to gain salvation. It is clear that Protestantism learned much from the Stoics!


  4. republican mother said, on April 26, 2018 at 6:40 PM

    I recently joined a secular homeschool group which is comprised of all sorts. What I immediately noticed was how much more positive everyone was. Everyone was excited about their areas of interest i.e. gardening and no one was griping about how hard everything is. One would think that a victorious Christians should exude this positive attitude all the time, instead of wallowing in their “inability”. How does that edify anyone? No one wants to be around that. The idea that you have to have a local church to gather is completely refuted when you have secular groups such as this fellow’s book club voluntarily forming and getting along without the drama of it being their sovereign G-d-given call. I can’t even imagine the Apostle Paul’s reaction to what passes for church.


    • John said, on April 26, 2018 at 9:58 PM

      RM, something for you. The joy (well, most of it; the “spiritual” side of things) of my childhood was shattered by being forced by a Calvinist dad to attend church, come hell or the second coming. Even after I had left the church at 17 (having shown them my skinny finger), I would return on a Saturday night after being out (just house parties, nothing vulgar), to find a note on my pillow, telling me to be ready for church and all sorts of threats with it like losing salvation, becoming part of the ‘world,’ blah. By then, I had already had enough, and He knew it, and so I just ignored his threats.

      One Sunday morning he spoke to me about my rebelliousness against him, Gawd, and Gawd’s merry gentlemen, screaming (basically) and saying that as long as was staying under his roof that I–. I stopped him, and said, “So you want me to hit Mom too?”

      That was the last time he ever said anything about it. He thought we did not know, but we had always known, my brothers and I since we were young lads. I hate Calvinism for many reasons, this story is but one.


      • republican mother said, on April 27, 2018 at 9:13 AM

        The tyrannical god of Calvinism is the perfect god of choice for your wife-beater dads. Wasn’t it Voddie Baucham that calls babies “vipers in diapers”? With that attitude, all sorts of twistedness is possible.

        I did not grow up attending church, so I was not affected by it the same way. I began attending church when I met my husband, who grew up attending what would be considered an Arminian baptist church. It was laid back and real. Occasional fits of “getting happy” broke out. One man under conviction was crying when Brother Preacher leaped over the pews crying, “are you ready? are you ready?!!!” Church was an exciting place where the unexpected might happen, and the onus was on you to do something for God.

        A funny meme might be a picture of dour Puritans saying No One Gets Happy in a Reformed Church. (Cause they won’t use the calvinist label-stigma and all)

        As the individual diminishes, the structure of the institution becomes a cold, heartless place.


      • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on April 27, 2018 at 11:29 PM


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