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The Marriage Of Faith And Force Is On The Horizon

Posted in Uncategorized by Andy Young, PPT contributing editor on March 18, 2018

For your consideration:

Briarwood Presbyterian Church Police Department Bill Died for Lack of Action in the Legislature

Briarwood Presbyterian Church

From the above article:

A bill that would have allowed the megachurch to hire certified peace officers died when the Legislature adjourned Friday, the second year in a row the measure has died. It was passed by the Senate and House last year but was not signed by the governor. This year, it passed the Senate but did not come up for a vote in the House…

…But critics see the potential for abuse. Randall Marshall, acting executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Alabama said, “Briarwood Presbyterian Church, as well as many other such institutions, already meet their security concerns through the use of private security, which does not implicate state power, or off-duty police officers who ultimately are answerable to their governmental employer for any abuse of the authority vested in them by the state…”

…Concerns over the legislation centered on the notion of a religious body with lethal force at its disposal. Moore maintains the church “would not use a police authority to enforce its views, nor would the proposed legislation authorize such…”

 

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  1. Argo said, on March 18, 2018 at 8:37 AM

    “Moore maintains the church “would not use a police authority to enforce its views, nor would the proposed legislation authorize such…”

    “Once this crisis has abated, I will lay down the powers you have given me.”

    -Darth Sidious

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  2. Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on March 18, 2018 at 8:55 AM

    “Concerns over the legislation centered on the notion of a religious body with lethal force at its disposal. Moore maintains the church “would not use a police authority to enforce its views, nor would the proposed legislation authorize such…” LOL!!! Does no one know anything about church history?

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    • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on March 18, 2018 at 9:28 AM

      Yeah, just watch what happens the first time a member or visitor speaks up in Sunday School to pose a disagreement with the pastor/elder/teacher. Watch how fast the hired thugs unceremoniously deposit him in the church parking lot…or worse yet bring him up on criminal charges of “disorderly conduct.” If you think such a thing is outside the realm of possibilities, remember that the Jewish leaders were able to get Jesus crucified under similar circumstances.

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    • Argo said, on March 18, 2018 at 12:34 PM

      That kind of thing proves our point. Church leadership thinks we are all idiots.

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  3. Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on March 18, 2018 at 9:01 AM

    Look, the line between a Democracy or a Representative Republic is a fine one. All you need is a majority of churchians in office who think, like Mike Huckabee, that “God’s law is higher than man’s law.” That should totally make cold chills run up your back. Susan and I are acquainted with a guy locally who is running for office and he has made us privy to all of the pastors and New Calvinists running for state office. Very scary…the plan is to gain a majority and implement laws according to orthodoxy.

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  4. Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on March 18, 2018 at 9:03 AM

    This is why this year’s conference is important https://paulspassingthoughts.com/2018/03/16/the-2018-conference-on-gospel-discernment-and-spiritual-tyranny-2/

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  5. Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on March 18, 2018 at 9:34 AM

    Private security only has the authority to escort undesireables off the premises or detain individuals until local police arrive. But a police force is authorized to arrest or charge individuals with a crime or use lethal force if necessary. This is what is truly frightening about the notion of “church police”.

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on March 18, 2018 at 10:17 AM

      The original bill authorized inhouse investigation and prosecution. I actually wrote a post about this some months ago.

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      • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on March 18, 2018 at 10:26 AM

        Right, meaning they could prosecute you for whatever they felt like and call it whatever they wanted.

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  6. Republican mother said, on March 18, 2018 at 2:18 PM

    Here is a link to a recent video that is a case-in-point.

    http://pulpitandpen.org/2018/03/16/greg-locke-rebuked-church-church-assaults-man-family/

    I’m no fan of Pulpit and Pen, but the guy in the video called out an adulterous pastor from my neck of the woods preaching a revival. They came at him physically like a swarm of yellow jackets. If they had internal police, this guy would be in jail. Super scary. Yet another IC wake up call.

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    • John said, on March 18, 2018 at 4:18 PM

      Yes, the Calvinist Pulpit and Pen. The guy (some rude jerk “pastor”) who is/was running it years ago (2014?) wanted to tell bookshops and the whole world which books they could stock and which not; it was a case of calling the kettle Hypo Crite. One of the worse sites on the Net, together with Cripplegate, Alpha and Omega, and Grace to You.

      So, suppose Miss X lets the communion cup pass her by because she was busy checking her emails on her iPhone 8 Plus. She is quietly escorted from her comfy padded seat (as to not disturb the EVIL guy behind the pulpit from doing his godly indoctrination) and she is then shot in the back of the head near a sculpture of Calvin behind the “church mall,” close to the “Let’s Meet and Remain Very Close Friends and What Happens Between Us Stays Between Us” coffee-and-dating service (run by a “Biblical counselor” from ACBC). Her blood spatter covers Calvin’s bronzed feet. Wow, what an intro to a movie. Remember, it was my idea first.

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      • republican mother said, on March 18, 2018 at 6:16 PM

        What if you have a cinematic shot of the blood dripping off of Calvin’s hands? An elder states in the background that she had signed the membership covenant agreeing to all forms of church discipline.

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    • John said, on March 19, 2018 at 2:19 AM

      RM, that’s a great fade-out shot, but it was still my (original, cough syrup-induced) idea. I get eight turkeys; you get two. Deal?

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  7. Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on March 18, 2018 at 4:14 PM

    Meanwhile, at John MacAurhtur’s church…

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    • John said, on March 18, 2018 at 4:19 PM

      Remember how everyone praised the devil MacArthur the next day, Andy? It was sickening, as every word the protester was saying was true.

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  8. johnimmel said, on March 19, 2018 at 11:26 AM

    And here in is the object lesson for the problem with “Prophets” and “Apostles” they both think they are in charge. And when you are the one standing behind the podium you are CERTAIN you are in charge so some guy who dares tell your wrong in public must certainly be a nut. And anyone who calls himself a prophet must certainly be a super big nut. Doesn’t the lunatic know that “Prophets” passed away? Apostles exist . . . oops apostolic “teams” exist but not prophets. So disregard. Let’s all laugh at the loony.

    Considering how many times God sends “prophets” to address people doing bad stuff and how often that ends in “prophets” getting the short end of that stick and the bad stuff continuing you’d think God would figure out it is a REALLY bad management model.

    My eternal advice to prophets is to just let it all crash and burn. that is where it ends up anyway. LOL And Johnny Mac will keep getting rich cause people love a guy in a suit.

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    • John said, on March 19, 2018 at 5:58 PM

      Yes, and Mac’s shoes are always polished and shiny because of his valet, Phil Johnson. Fatman and Bobbin, or something.

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