Paul's Passing Thoughts

The Fall of John MacArthur Jr.

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on March 10, 2018

2018 T4G

Excerpt from a protracted social media discussion:

What was rediscovered is true Protestantism; one must continually return to the cross for re-salvation or re-justification. The same gospel that saved you also sanctifies you because sanctification is the progression of salvation. This is the Neo-Protestant / Neo Calvinist / New Calvinism movement in a nutshell; it is a “gospel recovery” movement. Their words, not mine. Hence, in case you have never heard it, “We must preach the gospel to ourselves every day.”

John MacArthur et al have bought into it hook, line, and sinker because they have been shown by Michael Horton and others that this is, in fact, the basis of the Protestant Reformation. MacArthur wasn’t willing to side with the plain sense of Scripture against 500 years of tradition. His closest associate, Phil Johnson, is now clearly stating that salvation is a “process” that can only be effected within formal church membership. That’s Protestantism 101.

John Piper has stated that “Christians still need salvation.” Matt Chandler states that Christians are “wicked sinners who still need the gospel.” He asks, “On Sunday when the gospel is preached, is it preached to Christians or non-Christians who are present?” To this question he presents, he answers it himself…”YES!” This whole thing we have heard for years when we ask why the gospel is preached so much at church, viz, “Because there might be unbelievers present,” is disingenuous at best and outright deception at worst. The gospel is preached at church because Protestantism holds to the idea that Christians still need ongoing salvation found only in submission to the institutional church. While confused Protestants don’t believe that intellectually, they function that way because of the traditional dynamics of church. Hence, effective sanctification is watered down to the degree that the church functions according to progressive justification.

This is at the heart of all we are seeing in the contemporary church. At some point, I believe Christianity at large will have to deal with this reality because the church will not be able to slowly indoctrinate enough people to support its massive industrial complex. Will Protestantism merge with Catholicism in order to survive? That’s my best guess.

Both believe in a spiritual caste gospel; it’s merely a matter of agreeing to disagree on the minor details. Those who are out to save the organized church because their livelihood depends on it will end up finding another means of income anyway or else capitulate to increased ecumenicalism and overall doctrinal chaos.

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  1. John said, on March 10, 2018 at 9:15 AM

    Wow, ten EVIL men, including the main devil MacArthur himself, in one picture. What was the bait? A piece of Calvin’s burial cloth?

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on March 10, 2018 at 9:46 AM

      LOL! Ya. we will go with that.

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  2. republican mother said, on March 10, 2018 at 2:27 PM

    As a reminder to the vile spirit at work, check out the pictures of John MacArthur’s “Regeneration Camp” for youth:

    This video is actually an advertisement from Grace Community for their camp:
    [video src="http://watch-unto-prayer.org/regen-games-promo.mp4" /]

    They dance around severed pig heads and paint their faces like druids. This is something that would not happen in a home fellowship situation. I can’t ever think of a reason why I would ever need to build memories for my kids or my friend’s kids by getting a pig’s head from the butcher, setting it on a trash can, and getting hormonal teens in summer clothes to play tug of war and act up in front of it. Not seeing where God is glorified at all, but I’m sure some minds are getting programmed.

    Here is an interesting article, not vouching for all that’s in it, but this guy dug out some interesting nuggets.

    http://watch-unto-prayer.org/macarthur-7-druid-festival.html

    Definitely another rabbit hole -don’t look too hard into the abyss, or it will look at you might apply in investigating this angle.

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    • John said, on March 11, 2018 at 3:33 AM

      RM, that lot defends the murderer Calvin (peace be upon him. All to the bar!). MacArthur, Calvin incarnate, can do no wrong.

      Want to really, really excite them and make them ultra happy? Ask a Calvinist/Lutheran/Reformed lost sheep when she/he was saved (date).
      And then listen to the sound of silence (not Simon and Kerfuffle’s), or to the person’s beautifully rotten theory of progressive justification that makes less sense than a bicycle pump in an aquarium.

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      • republican mother said, on March 11, 2018 at 10:32 AM

        John,
        I soon realized that the “pastor” of the last church I attended was a stealth Calvinist when I listened week after week and there was never a mention of the “new birth”.

        Now the last church I enjoyed being a member of actually made a point of making sure you had a time and place of your new birth. I couldn’t figure out why these deacons would get up and make such a big deal about “I can name ya the time and I can name ya the place”. But I get it now. These Calvinists have no testimony, except to bore you with their education and credentials.

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  3. Matt said, on March 11, 2018 at 9:25 PM

    Paul, greetings in Christ Jesus.
    Calvinism is revealing its cultic nature more and more. I learned about gospel-contemplation and the redemptive hermeneutic back in TT’s Coral Ridge days. I knew something was off. Thank you for your work. You have helped me see the deception more clearly by learning their language. These double minded men are all deceivers. They are wicked. Their craft is satanic.

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on March 12, 2018 at 8:47 AM

      Greetings Matt; the fusion of authority and faith is by definition a cult. We must rethink the whole concept of authority. Presently, in this age, God Himself does not even exercise His authority but rather persuasion. The apostle Paul’s letters are longer than, “Do it this way and believe this because I say so.” Also, let me add this citation: [Note: Hebrews 13:17, “obey your leaders and submit to them …” In this verse, two different Greek words are used here. Obey is peitho, and submit is hupeiko. Both of these words have the sense of being “yielded” or “to win over,” not by submission to authority, but resulting from persuasion.] The time of God’s applied authority will be in the coming kingdom, but not now.

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      • Matt said, on March 12, 2018 at 9:23 AM

        Why does one person “speak for God”?
        —Because others give a man the authority. It is assumed because “that’s what we’ve always done”. Hey the pastor used a lot of bible verses. He went to seminary and is really smart. I’ll take his word for it and follow what he says. Everyone is doing it.

        Where is the Levitical Priest in the NT? Where is the tithe? Where is the altar? Where is the temple? Where is a membership covenant? The “pastor” is a hireling.

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  4. Matt said, on March 11, 2018 at 10:42 PM

    Here in West Palm Beach is a growing New Calvinist Cult called Family Church, formerly First Baptist West Palm. Jimmy Scroggins took over, changed the name, and then aggressively planted seed churches and became multi-site (now there are over 10 branches). He promotes the idea of “bi-vocational” pastors — this makes growing his franchise more cost efficient. I was invited to a service so I checked it out. Scroggins was formerly dean of Boyce College at SBTS. He is on the board of trustees for Lifeway and is heavily involved with the SBC, Cooperative Program, ERLC, NAMB, and SendSFL. Al Mohler preaches at Family Church every year. Scroggins is best buds with Russell Moore and JD Grear. He nominated Grear to be SBC president. Scroggins preaches a self improvement gospel along with social justice. He encourages illegal immigration and racial justice right along side TGC. Twice I heard him tell illegal immigrants to break the law, just like TGC’s video “Thinking Christianly About Immigration”. In the same pattern of TGC he comes out with videos about “racial justice”. The Marxist agenda is orchestrated by Mohler through groups like family church. Commonweal at SBTS is only one example of Jesuit teaching bolstered by Mohler. He promotes The Benedict Option for crying out loud. Mohler is not only ecumenical, he is pumping out young change agents through SBTS. Scroggins makes sure that homosexuals feel welcome in his church. Check out his “3 circles” — this is their evangelism tool. Family church uses “Christian” rap heavily with their youth. The “domestic mission trips” for the youth are deplorable — reminds me of Camp Regen and Passion Conferences (Scroggins promotes Louie Giglio and Passion). Of course there are books by the mystics in small groups. I have no doubt the dialectical process is being used. Scroggins repeats his shtick over and over wherever he goes, and he gets around on the conference circuit. I heard him speak about how we should think about “sin management” and not triumphalism when it comes to our sexuality — that it is not “something to be won”. This teaching comes from the pit of hell. It is sad that people see this as Christianity. The “3 circles” are repeated over and over through life. Apparently we need the same gospel over and over. Progressive Justification. No new birth. No power over sin.

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on March 12, 2018 at 8:53 AM

      Exactly. With power over sin being freedom to love. What they are circumventing is the second use of the law for loving God and others, and the results are evident.

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  5. Matt said, on March 11, 2018 at 11:37 PM

    3 Circles:

    “No matter what your background, you understand brokenness. Whether you know what sin is or not, you understand the feelings of emptiness it leaves with you.”

    “Our relief from brokenness is found in repentance. We must repent and believe the Gospel in order to be rescued from brokenness.”

    “The concept of recovering and pursuing God’s design is crucial. “Becoming a Christian doesn’t automatically fix our past hurts and scars. This diagram works in a cycle because even beyond our initial salvation, we continue to depart from God’s design. Every time we sin and find ourselves in brokenness, we have to repent and recover and pursue the design.””

    https://www.familychurchnetwork.com/origin-of-the-3-circles/

    Jimmy Scroggins:
    “Think management, not triumphalism.
    What I mean by this is that we are all still managing our sexuality, myself included. We all still struggle, just like our kids. It’s not a battle to be won.”

    https://www.familychurchnetwork.com/talking-to-our-kids-about-sexuality-having-the-talk/

    The last 7 minutes of this video are very revealing:

    Scroggins asks “how many have you won, won, I mean put the stake in the vampire of lust?”

    “Whoever says that — you are a liar”

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on March 12, 2018 at 8:56 AM

      Yep, same old song and dance of justification by faith said a different way.

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on March 12, 2018 at 9:05 AM

      Note the use of assumption to deceive until folks are fully indoctrinated. Many will conclude that this, “Our relief from brokenness is found in repentance. We must repent and believe the Gospel in order to be rescued from brokenness” speaks to the onetime event of salvation. But if one is paying attention, who does “our” refer to? So, Christians are broken. What does he mean by that? Well, the cure for this brokenness is the gospel…so…you can do the math from there. Then the final payoff: we have to re-believe in the gospel to continually be re-fixed. It’s as blatant a false gospel as any. My goodness, at least Islam and Buddhism is intellectually honest.

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      • Matt said, on March 12, 2018 at 10:18 AM

        These men are very deceptive. If you read their books and look at the conferences it is not too difficult to discern the false gospel (given an elementary undestanding of the most basic bible doctrines accompanied by an understanding of New Calvinist nomenclature). If you attend a Sunday service you may not see the false gospel for what it is right away because it is so nuanced and saturated with seeker-sensitive intellectualism.

        Yes, they are saying that we need the same gospel to save us as well as sanctify us (grow in the gospel).

        Like JD Grear says: “It’s not just the diving board, it’s the pool”.

        Notice how we are being rescued from brokenness and not sin. What are the wages of brokenness? “Believe in the Gospel in order to be rescued from brokenness”. This gospel uses God in order to give relief from brokenness.

        It’s like “How People Change” — they don’t change. There is no transformation in this culture of death. People identify with their Total Depravity / Total Inability and believe they have no power to change or that they even should try to (walk, work, abide, put-on, purge, put-off, think, endure, press-on, sacrifice, add to the faith, resist, cut-off, abide, mortify, lie not, forgive, love) change anything. After all like RC Sproul said “if God wanted to he could vaporize me before I sin”. MacArthur and Sproul agree that God is the author of all sin in the video “Does God Pre-Ordain Sin?”. Piper says the same thing. Everything is pre-ordained down to “dust motes”. It is accepted because that is what authorities sell. Just grow in awareness of your own sinfulness and contemplate on the gospel.

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      • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on March 13, 2018 at 9:20 AM

        Specifically, the gospel metaphysical narrative written by God for His glory; it happened because it’s in the prewritten script. That’s the historical-redemptive hermeneutic which is not only a biblical interpretation method, but a worldview for interpreting reality itself. In a nutshell; good old fashioned caste religion which originated in the garden and later articulated by Plato in the 6th century and morphing into Neo-Platonism and Gnosticism by the 1st century.

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  6. Matt said, on March 13, 2018 at 11:47 AM

    In case you have not seen this… here is a great example of the DILEBERATE DECEPTION of these Calvinists. They talk about becoming reformed and then indoctrinating baptists with reformed theology without telling them the specifics of what it is. They talk specifically about how they intentionally deceive when introducing the redemptive hermeneutic.

    Calvinists believe they have the truth. They believe every one else is ignorant and deception is justified in their minds.

    Calvinism = coercion by both “god” and man

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