Paul's Passing Thoughts

We Disagree on the Premise…So How Do We Know Who’s Right?

Posted in Uncategorized by Andy Young, PPT contributing editor on October 17, 2017


Originally published October 17, 2016

One can always determine the validity of a metaphysical assumption (that being the moral and thus one that is correct and true) by considering the axiomatic results the logical conclusions of such assumptions must produce.

“See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil…I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life…” ~ Deuteronomy 30:15,19

In dealing with reformed/protestant theologians, at best you will only ever get them to acknowledge that the two of you are coming from differing points of view (“we agree to disagree”). What they are really saying is that they are acknowledging a difference in metaphysics (the nature of reality and existence). They do this unwittingly because such a statement is philosophical and not theological, and they are not trained in philosophy even though their theological position requires them to adopt a philosophy. In other words, they won’t couch it in philosophical language.

Second, they will reject your premise out of hand because to them “authority” always trumps reason. So even though you have a more reasonable argument, it cannot possibly be valid because it is not authoritative.

I submit that it is indeed possible to objectively determine that one metaphysical assumption is indeed true and thus the correct “moral” premise. And you do that by evaluating each one and looking at what are the end results of each. I would submit that the premise that results in life would be the correct, moral, and valid view of reality and existence.

If we understand that the Bible is God’s philosophical statement to mankind, then what God is saying is, “This is how the world works; this is the way I made it to work; this is reality.”  Therefore, if you follow this philosophy to its rational conclusion, the result is life! (This is ostensibly what God was saying to Israel in Deuteronomy 30.)

Said another way, we can reject the metaphysical premise of authentic protestant/reformed theology and its accompanying epistemology of historical-redemptive hermeneutics, because following it to its rational conclusion the result is condemnation, fear, and ultimately DEATH!

Clearly, the one that results in LIFE would be the moral ideal, and thus the correct and true one!

~ Andy

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  1. John said, on October 17, 2017 at 8:52 AM

    Indeed, Andy. Fine article. Yes, their “authority” trumps reason. Man trumps the Biblical God, in other words.

    Ugh, how many times (from Protestants; i.e., Calvinists, Reformed Sheep, Lutherans, Presbyterians, whatever) have I, and you, I’m sure, heard the following close-minded, ignorant line when pressing them on an important theological issue such as salvation: “God said it, I believe it, that settles it.” And then they usually turn red in the face and disappear . . . because the sawrin “god’ has spoken thru em and because you are taking on their precious manmade “doctrine.”

    Huh? We can have a whole article on all these “Christian” cliches, can’t we? These slogans irritate me more than a tennis ball in the throat does.

    Rock on:


  2. Susan said, on October 17, 2017 at 9:40 AM

    How do we know who is right? Simple. Create a new authority (a new church) or decree that it doesn’t matter. All roads lead to God (believe what you will) or God told you one thing and He told me something totally different. See, wasn’t that easy. I truly believe we are witnessing the great apostasy.


    • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on October 17, 2017 at 10:49 AM

      ” Create a new authority (a new church) or decree that it doesn’t matter. “

      We all know how well that works out.


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