The more we admit we were “wrong” (what’s that a euphemism for?), the more “grace” was bestowed. Huh? That’s exactly how a great number of Calvinists live today (a great number of them revere Paul the apostle; in fact, so much that they visit the places he supposedly visited. These pilgrims go to mars Hill and roleplay; gee, talk of being mentally imbalanced. If Paul’s gravesite were known, his followers would probably do some NAR grave sucking there).
Van Eck also writes that the “greatest sinner” should be the happiest. Where’s the sin list so that we can determine who the greatest and who the smallest sinner was/is. Where is clerical sexual abuse on the list? I wonder.
In all fairness, van Eck is responding to “christpersell”, so my comment is not aimed at Van Eck, but at the principle/false teaching involved.
Paul Dohse’s response is wonderful. What intrigues me, however, is the question on the sidebar: “Why does Paul Washer’s family stalk people?” Listen, talk of a dangerous, militant false teacher…
Don’t, but don’t dare (!) to forget to misapply Lamentations 3:23, the Calvinist way. That’s a favorite in their skew circles. And Jeremiah 17:9, of course. Calvinism/Reformed nonsense is another gospel, and their teachers are false, every one of them, without fail.
Have you accepted Calvin into your heart yet, Susan? Blunder, I mean, has Calvin irresistibly drawn and elected you yet, Susan? Wanna work a Calvinist into a little frenzy? Play them “50 ways to leave your lover.”
Calvinism is absurd; that’s all I want to say today.
Well John,it’s like this. If I am “elect”, then there is nothing I can or cannot do that will affect my salvation. I will be saved even if I don’t want to be saved. If I am “non-elect”, then I am damned no matter what I do. I will be damned even if I want to be saved. If I am “temporary elect”, then I am called and chosen only to later be discarded and condemned to hell. Again, I have no say whatsoever in the matter. And all of this is somehow pleasing and glorifying to God. We are nothing but puppets and god is the divine puppeteer. The god of John Calvin is nothing short of a monster. I somehow missed the prayer to John Calvin. What a religion! sarcasm off/
The longer I observe this bunch, the more I am convinced that they are the world’s most hard- core LARPers( live action role players) (excepting suicide bomber type Muslims).
They make up this god who is a sovereignly radical computer programmer and they play the part of NPCs ( non player characters) that act out what they think their good wants. This includes some sort of loop of sinning, groveling, and lip servicing the “ridiculous” grace, etc.
From what my kids were telling me, The Gospel Project emphasized sin more than any other program they’d seen. I guess they had to reload the sin idea for the kids each week so they could acheive more grace. Of course the “leader” (we don’t have teachers anymore) doesn’t have a clue about any of this stuff.
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