Paul's Passing Thoughts

Paul Dohse Challenges John Piper on Election

Posted in Uncategorized by Andy Young, PPT contributing editor on December 29, 2016

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  1. John said, on December 31, 2016 at 12:29 PM

    Priceless! The soul patch! Of course! That’s for those higher up Calvin’s ladder (the coffee shop snobs). šŸ™‚


  2. republican mother said, on January 1, 2017 at 11:17 AM

    The fact Piper can get up there and talk about this stuff with a straight face and not feel conflicted enough to stop giving these talks and such is amazing. If something I said wasn’t right, it would drive me crazy until I made it right – instead this bunch just papers it over with smugness.

    A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. James 1:8

    Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in Thee. Isa 26:3

    I’m just not seeing the peace that passeth understanding with this bunch at all. I recently left a church I was attending when it was clear that I couldn’t stomach anymore of the Neo-Cal book studies – I kept noticing the “restless” theme. Also note, this was a tiny church and me and my kids significantly changed the attendance ratio. This was not a big outfit, but the guy was clearly following the “plan”.

    Book studies at night included Platt’s Radical, Jerry Bridges’ Trusting God, Mere Christianity and The Screwtape Letters. He mentioned maybe doing Piper’s Desiring God, but my scowl probably put him off that. The regular SBC literature has been replaced with The Gospel Project, to which I made a weekly point to object to something the writers would say because it was so convoluted. I kept repeating, boy, I’m glad I’m born again!

    I didn’t know exactly why it was so off until I read Paul’s stuff on the Historical Redemptive Hermeneutic – that really helped everything click for me what was going on with that stuff. An older lady in her 80s lamented if she’ll ever see the New Testament in Sunday School again. I joked with the teacher that us young folks will get the to the New Testament one of these days if they older folks don’t live to see it! I can tell you no one likes this curriculum. My oldest daughter said she felt like she dies a little bit each time we go, so we quit going.

    I also noticed the strange,dark twist on Scripture. He asked the question, why would Paul want to go back to Phillippi when so many bad things happened to him there: the beating, the prison, the earthquake? And I’m like are you kidding? That whole story is a Holy Ghost rock party! He got a beating, but Jesus told them that it was a’coming. They were singing in prison; God sent the earthquake; a jailer got saved; Lydia gave them a place to stay, etc.

    I notice that these guys like CS Lewis, I think because they love the story aspect of their gospel. Lewis believed that Christianity was paganism fulfilled. I grew up in a New Age/Occult type environment, so I can’t tell you how much this offends me – but I guess it all goes back to these Gnostic roots for this bunch.

    Why did I start going to this church? About a year and a half ago it was totally different. The kids Sunday School teacher made up his own lessons geared to the kids that were there (mostly mine), which is how I did it when I did the Children’s ministry gig. He told me that it was the simplest church around, which is what I was looking for! The spirit there was great, even without a pastor, but since the new hire, it would seem that Neo-Cal Baptist v.1.1 has been downloaded and is running its malware on this place. Everyone who welcomed us there a year ago has moved away or died, so I really don’t want to watch anymore of this or I might get confrontational, and there is no worse sin in church is there?

    My husband, who is king of the introverts, ventured out to hear him preach when he first arrived, and commented that he was going to try to do the whole change the church over. He was right about that-each week it was a new idea he was throwing out – elders instead of deacons, for example.

    So to the first idea, there seems to be no peace with this bunch. They seems eager to have some works, but then do the fake humility act to prove that they aren’t owning their works. The mature Christians I know don’t get rattled about much, and know where they stand with God. This bunch seems to be restless because they are standing on the shifting sand, hoping not to get sucked in.

    “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” I John 5:13

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  3. John said, on January 1, 2017 at 12:22 PM

    Incredible and great observations, Republican mother. Thanks for sharing. Yup, it’s the same within these “churches” everywhere. You write, “Iā€™m just not seeing the peace that passeth understanding with this bunch at all.” Well, you would not…Isaiah 57:20, 21 give a glimpse as to why not, among many other things. And Galatians 1:6–12 gives more proof as to the absence of heavenly peace. It’s all a fake, ain’t it?


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