Paul's Passing Thoughts

What’s Wrong with Church? According to the Church; They Aren’t About Morals

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on June 27, 2016

MoralsI am becoming reacquainted with the characters who plied their evil trade along the blessed broken road that led me to my present life. One such evil character is now plying his trade as a church elder in Texas. Like another former elder at Clearcreek Chapel in Springboro, Ohio, the real stories behind their departures are aloof.

At any rate, Chad Bresson’s Facebook page is a treasure trove of Protestant bumper stickers indicative of what finally brought me to an ultimate standoff with institutional salvation or salvation by institutional religion in general. The first meme takes the errant Protestant view of total depravity (any good work of any person only appears to be good but is really evil) and uses it to propagate James’ contention against faith without works. Why do the masses continue to be faithful to an institution that blatantly contradicts the plain sense of Scripture? The answer is too simple: salvation comes through obedience to the authority of the institution. Viz, note the second meme.

Are you perplexed by the evil you see in church? Why? They openly proclaim that moralism is supposedly a biblical anomaly.

Keller

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  1. Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on June 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    It’s not so much that morality doesn’t matter to them. The fact is that most people confuse morality and ethics. Ethics are a functions of one’s philosophy, therefore one’s “ethics” can be considered “good” as long as it is consistent with one’s view of reality. This is what allows evil to continue in the church since in their construct of reality, what we would call “evil” is actually “good” to them because it fits perfectly with their reality. It is therefore possible for one’s ethics to be “good” because it is consistent with their philosophy and still be “immoral”, since morality is not defined by reality but the other way around.

    If I’m not mistaken, God had something to say about those with this kind of ethics.
    “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” ~ Isaiah 5:20

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on June 27, 2016 at 10:19 AM

      As an aside, per the program yesterday, Dr. James White stated that Christians are not “totally depraved” because apparently, they have the ability to see that they are totally depraved (ie, can do no good work). So, of course the “Christian” is not totally depraved because they have the ability to see that they are totally depraved. And so it goes.

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      • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on June 27, 2016 at 10:24 AM

        The logical fallacy in that line of reasoning should be blatantly obvious!

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  2. lydia00 said, on June 28, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    Bresson makes a good case for hanging out with Athiests if many are more moral than Christians. At least we would not have to deal with deceptive pastors. Hee. Hee.

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  3. muckeroy said, on July 4, 2016 at 9:06 PM

    I’m sorry why are you quoting Keller. Is what Keller saying ok or putting us under law?

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on July 6, 2016 at 8:08 AM

      It puts us under law because morals in Christian living are irrelevant. “Under law” will always lead to antinomianism because the law is interpreted as having a single perspective; ie., the standard for righteousness rather than the standard for love in Christian living. Because no one can keep the law perfectly and some unbelievers are better at keeping the law than professing believers, we continue to need a savior because we remain under the condemnation of the law according to Reformed ideology. This ALWAYS results in a “relaxing” of the law. This is why the Pharisees were not “legalists” but rather antinomians. And this is why the Presbyterian church is going to hell in a handbasket.

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      • muckeroy said, on July 6, 2016 at 7:40 PM

        Thx Paul I have been in the EPC for 16 years. From 2000 to 2015 this has been my christain life. I would sin feel condemnation or listen to a sermon from keller or drillcos or piper or macauther or scott sauls, zack eswine, others from covent semiary st louis and at my church riverside webster groves, mo. and feel condemnation or not connected depress … then confess my sin make amends to injury party my wife usually after a few days I would start feeling better and start trying to obey only to disobey again repeat….until jan 2015 I was reading Romans chp 6 and 7 also watching a sermon Joesph Prince for the first time on tbn which no reformed, tulip loving RC Sproul daddy and jr watching calvinist does and Roman 6 14 lit up ( l read it many times before and have martin lyod jones books on it) but never seen that im not under law but under grace thats my standing. sin has no dominion over me. I dont listen to these guys anymore except zack because hes my pastor. But i like reading your blog there’s alot of info and i will ask you any ?s When they come up. If you have comments or ?s I would like to hear from you thx again John Casper from St. Louis MO On Jul 6, 2016 7:08 AM, “Pauls Passing Thoughts” wrote:

        > Paul M. Dohse Sr. commented: “It puts us under law because morals in > Christian living are irrelevant. “Under law” will always lead to > antinomianism because the law is interpreted as having a single > perspective; ie., the standard for righteousness rather than the standard > for love in C” >

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      • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on July 7, 2016 at 7:33 AM

        Christians still sin because they are weak in their mortality, not because they are still enslaved to sin and under the condemnation of the law.

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      • muckeroy said, on July 7, 2016 at 8:10 AM

        If you have time can ypu explain “weak in there mortality” thx On Jul 7, 2016 6:33 AM, “Pauls Passing Thoughts” wrote:

        > Paul M. Dohse Sr. commented: “Christians still sin because they are weak > in their mortality, not because they are still enslaved to sin and under > the condemnation of the law.” >

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      • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on July 7, 2016 at 1:37 PM

        “The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.” Those under law are not born again and do not have a “willing spirit” that comes from a transformed heart and love for THE truth (2Thess 2:10). Sin dwells IN the body but the body itself is not inherently evil. It’s weak, but not inherently evil. Obviously, it can be used for holy purposes (Rom 12:1) and is the temple of God, actually, literally as revealed by a careful word study, the Holy of Holies. Before Christ ended the law, only the High Preist could enter the Holy of Holies which was also material. Salvation is the removal of the law’s condemnation which empowers sin and enables it to enslave. Instead of the law provoking those to sin whom are under its condemnation, the born again believer is provoked to love and good works by the law. REDEMPTION is the saving of the mortal body that eradicates sin completely. “The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.” We have the victory because Christ died to end the law (Rom 10:4) and stripped it of its condemning power…NOT because Christ keeps the law for us. That would mean that “there is a law that can give life,” BUT there is only “ONE SEED.”

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