Paul's Passing Thoughts

Did You Sin Today?

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on December 9, 2015

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  1. lydia00 said, on December 12, 2015 at 3:06 AM

    I hear this one a lot. what do you say to it? They set up a false dichotomy of sinless perfection or perpetual sinner. And of course, everyone falls into the latter. That makes me and the rapist one and the same

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    • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on December 13, 2015 at 11:55 AM

      What do you say? Say what I say: “No, actually I didn’t!”
      Not only does it really torque them off, but it is a metaphysical truth! As far as my justification is concerned, not only did I not sin, but I CANNOT sin! My justification made my old man dead to the law, and there is now no law to condemn me. That was John’s point in 1 John 3:9,

      “Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: and he CANNOT sin, because he is born of God.”

      Once we are on the other side of justification, any “sin” we may commit is defined as a failure to show love. It is failing to use the law to show love to God and others. This does not condemn, but it does welcome God’s chastisement as a father would correct an erring child. But this is what happens when the religious establishment fails to make this distinction: EVERY sin becomes a condemning sin requiring the perpetual reapplication of Jesus’ “atonement” and obedience to the law. Is there any wonder then why “Christians” live in constant fear of not having assurance of salvation?!

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  2. lydia00 said, on December 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Andy, there are a lot of folks out there who believe one can be saved AND rape, murder and molest children. It is obvious they don’t read 1 John the same way. I usually point out “walking in the light” and what that means for believers.

    I contend that someone who is Born Again cannot harm others because they could not live with themselves.

    I have had so many YRR ask me if I sinned today. It is uncanny how popular that one is!

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    • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on December 14, 2015 at 12:14 PM

      “…there are a lot of folks out there who believe one can be saved AND rape, murder and molest children. It is obvious they don’t read 1 John the same way. I usually point out ‘walking in the light’ and what that means for believers.”

      Yeah, this is a difficult problem to address because at its core, the issue is presuming to know the heart, and this one can go both ways. What comes to mind first is Galatians 5

      “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” ~ Galatians 5:19-21

      There is a parallel passage to this in 1 Corinthians

      “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” ~ 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

      Then Paul makes a transition

      “And such WERE [past tense!] some of you: BUT ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are JUSTIFIED in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” ~ 1 Corinthians 6:11

      The same inverse parallel is found in the Galatians passage

      “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.” ~ Galatians 5:22-25

      Here, “walking in the spirit” is the same as “walking in the light” as you referenced.

      “I contend that someone who is Born Again cannot harm others because they could not live with themselves.”

      I think this is what it comes down to. We know that believers are a “new man”, born again, dead to the law and its condemnation. But we also acknowledge the weakness of the flesh. Sin can still provoke the flesh to do evil things. We have often heard professing Christians claim they did something in a “moment of weakness”. I think we have to acknowledge that as a reality. It does not affect their justification, but it certainly was not using the law to show love to God and others. Joseph refused Potiphar’s wife, not because he feared condemnation, but because he loved God and he loved Potiphar.

      But in cases where a believer does succumb to weakness, I should think a genuine believer would accept the consequences that go with such action, which as Paul (Dohse, not the apostle 🙂 ) has mentioned would go a long way in indicating the genuineness of their repentance, and take actions not to allow such a thing to happen again.

      (And PLEASE understand, I am in NO WAY characterizing such heinous, violent, criminal actions as rape, murder, and molestation as “moments of weakness”, I am merely presenting an argument)

      But when you have instances where you have habitual offenders, who not only seek to avoid consequences, but also seek to have others legitimize their actions, I think one must seriously consider the genuineness of their claim on the new birth. Such actions do not exhibit a motivation of love for God and love for others that are indicative of a truly born again believer!

      Andy

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