Paul's Passing Thoughts

Faith and Authority

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on July 22, 2015

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  1. Emily Miers said, on July 23, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    I’ve been following your blog for a while now. There is one statement that my pastor has made several times over the years that has puzzled me. He said that he prepares the sermon for the church and then when he gets up on the pulpit, he gets out of the way and lets God speak to us through the words that the pastor has prepared for us beforehand. He is like the chef who prepares the meal and then gets out of the way to let us enjoy eating it. At first, I thought that sounded very humble and spiritual of him but now I am wondering if it’s actually the opposite. He is being the coregent with God, isn’t he? In that case, how should a pastor present a sermon to the congregation? Should he just be honest about his participating in the sharing of the Word of God and not pretending to get out of the way?

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on July 23, 2015 at 6:47 AM

      Emily,

      That’s a very astute observation. The fact that Protestantism is predicated on coregency with God is well documented and I think you offer up one more example here. A similar example to your pastor’s approach can be seen here: http://wp.me/pmd7S-1fJ Elders, who have NO authority, are to lead by example and study to show themselves approved by persuading the assembly through their teaching. We will be judged/rewarded for how well we practice the gifts God gave us, not how well we lived by a protestant formula for imputing the works of Christ into our Christian lives. It’s not “one way love.”

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    • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on July 23, 2015 at 9:14 AM

      Emily,

      I too have heard various pastors say the almost the exact same thing. In fact, I have even heard one who would begin his “sermon” by prayng and asking God to speak through him, as if he were channeling God’s very words. That is extremely creepy if you ask me, if not cult-like, at the very least.

      I think it is important that believers come to the realization that the “pastor” is not a “office” or position in the “church”, as tradition would have us believe. According to Ephesians 4:11 (one of the very few places where you will even find the word “pastor” in the Bible) the “pastor” is actaully one of the spiritual gifts, not and office. Moreover, the structure of the Greek indicates that the gift is dual-fuctioning, pastor-teacher, not just pastor. The “pastor” function describes that of the guarding and protecting role of a shepherd, while the “teacher” function describes causing someone to learn by methodical instruction and persuasion by reason.

      In addition, 1 Corinthians 12 teaches the importants of ALL gifts, that one gift is no more or less important than any other. Each memeber of the Body (for we are all members of the Body of Christ) is just as important (although Paul does suggest that the ones that would seem less attractive are actually more important!) because ALL are needed in order for the Body to function as it should! So each of us, reagardless of our gift, from the teacher to the prayer warrior, needs to be focused on fellowship with each other for the purpose of mutual edification of the Body, exhorting and equipping each other to exercise our gifts wherever we fit in within the Body of Christ. As we do these things, each of us in turn is properly equipped to carry out the mandate that Christ left for us: to go out into the world and make learners!

      To anyone reading this: Do you know what your gift is? Are you in a place where you can exercise it? Are you encouraging others to exercise their gift? This would be my challenge to you!

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  2. Oasis said, on August 5, 2015 at 6:41 PM

    Thanks for the Greek info, Andy!

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