Rebels
The Protestant church, and Baptists in particular have created a whole generation of petulant rebels… pic.twitter.com/kcmqmvhyAo
— Paul M. Dohse (@PaulMDohse) June 11, 2015
The Protestant church, and Baptists in particular have created a whole generation of petulant rebels… pic.twitter.com/kcmqmvhyAo
— Paul M. Dohse (@PaulMDohse) June 11, 2015
Paul's Passing Thoughts 
You can’t lump all Baptist into this. I attend a Baptist church that stands against Calvinism. Our pastor preaches against heresy, worldliness and false teachers and calls them out by name (Piper, Keller, Dever, and others). For centuries, pastors called out false teachers by name. Today, church pastors embrace them and call them friends for the sake of gospel unity.
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Mike,
Good for you and good for them. NO sarcasm there. Now there is only one more thing to do: drop the name “baptist” because of its historical roots that go back to the Reformation and its progressive justification heresy.
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Here are a few accounts that could be helpful:
The Trail of Blood 2000 Years of the Baptist Story
baptisthistoryhomepage.com/stratton.tr.of.bld.and.comm.html
Baptist History – Bible Truth
bible-truth.org/BaptistHistory.html
Spurgeon on Baptists – Calvary Baptist Church
http://www.olneycalvarybaptist.com/index.php?p=1_16_Spurgeon…Baptists
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M.E.,
For the most part, Baptists split from the Reformers on baptism but not the basic soteriology of progressive justification; ie., see the London Baptist confessions as well as many others. In fact, Baptist churches mirror Calvin’s order of “Sunday worship services” which were tailored for progressive justification.
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Weren’t ‘Baptists’, ‘Anabaptists’, ‘Waldenses,’ ‘Lollards’, and the many other earnest groups of believers tracable back through the centuries, arbitrarily given those names by their enemies: the different leaders of Christendom? Although those believer-groups still increased despite persecutions, the strategy (warned of by Paul in his epistles) of infiltration and takeover (used also by the Reformed/Calvinists and the Jesuits) continued/continues to have a measure of success with the naive and ignorant. There are ‘reformed’ versions of many groups (Christian and cults) but that doesn’t speak to their original character. I’m not sure why you say “for the most part, Baptists split from the Reformers…”
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…in the same way that thieves often have disagreements among themselves, proponents of progressive justification quibble about many other matters of doctrine. Many Baptists are proud of the London Confessions and claim them wholeheartedly–that’s a problem.
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I contend that ‘Reformed Baptist’ is a misnomer and doctrinal contradiction. One is either ‘Reformed’ or ‘Baptist’. A ‘Reformed Baptist’ church will at some point undergo a name change to erase the Pre-Reformation history/traditions/doctrine. The many ‘unorthodox’ Christian groups – including those labeled ‘Anabaptist’ – predated both Catholic and Reformation theology. Their persecutors included the Jewish and Gentile leaders of the Apostolic days, Augustine and thus the Catholic Church, Luther, and Calvin. Am I missing something? I won’t bother you further on the subject unless you see a benefit.
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Yes, what you are missing is the question of whether or not salvation is a finished work regardless of quibbling over baptism. I don’t know where the Anabaptist stood on the new birth. BUT, Baptists who hold to the London Confessions are clearly Reformed in their soteriology. Likewise, fussing between Catholics and Protestants is background noise; both believe salvation is a progression from point A to point B. Email Pearl at mail@ttanc.com and we will send you a 38 page booklet that states my reasoning for this in detail. For free.
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I agree that any creeds, confessions, catechism are the fruit of Augustinian theology, not the New Testament. Also that Augustine is ‘father’ of both Catholic and Reformed theology.
Link below might be helpful:
baptisthistoryhomepage.com/harvey.baptist.hist.html
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