Paul's Passing Thoughts

Wow. Very Scary. Other Thoughts?

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on May 29, 2015

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  1. johnimmel said, on May 29, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    I think this is what is called a package deal—Packaging together the implied authority of “The apostles” to apply to everything else in the list. But anyone with a few hours of study in church history sees right through the fallacy.

    The “apostle’s” didn’t give us the bible. At best they wrote semi private letters. And those letters were not compiled into an anthology until almost the 3rd century.

    The “Disciples” didn’t give us the bible any more than the 5000 gave us the miracle of the loaves and fishes.

    The “apostolic fathers” didn’t give us the “bible’ . . . again the anthology wasn’t compiled yet. And if they had started compiling (if they even knew about Paul) there is serious evidence that what they did know they condemned as heresy—Paul wouldn’t have made it into cannon. And the apostolic fathers that did write: Clement of Rome, Barnabas, Ignatius, Polycarp et al . . . their writing didn’t make it into cannon.

    A wonderful historical factoid is that the first effort at compiling Christian text was started with Marcion of Sinope. Of course Marcion was condemned as a heretic but he was the first person to create a “bible.” It is curios that the subsequent generations of Church leaders decided to build in his foundation.

    The closest comment to the truth is that the “orthodox” church gave us the bible . . . . which is to say that tradition enforced by Church fiat is what created the bible.

    It wasn’t until the 3rd century that the beginnings of cannon was started in earnest and, if memory serves, didn’t become finalized until well into the 12th century. (?)

    And then of course there are those pesky Reformation Protestants that decided they had a “spiritual insight than the apostles, disciples, apostolic fathers, and the orthodox church that gave them the bible” and tossed out 1st and 2nd Maccabees,Baruch, Tobit, Judith, The Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), additions to Esther, and the stories of Susanna and Bel and the Dragon which are included in Daniel. Orthodox Old Testaments include these plus 1st and 2nd Esdras, Prayer of Manasseh, Psalm 151 and 3rd Maccabees.

    Damned Protestants and their spiritual insights . . .

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  2. Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on May 29, 2015 at 4:43 PM

    Specifically what they did was made every verse about the redemptive works of Christ. The sole purpose of the Bible is to reveal the contrast between God and man. Obviously, the Bible is a threat to the popes and Protestant hierarchy alike. The popes outlawed the printing of it, and the Protestants reduced it to a prewritten metaphysical narrative. Hence Luther created the redemptive interpretation specialist known as the “Cross Theologian.” For all practical purposes, the Bible might as well be yet banned as far as Protestants go.

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  3. Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on May 29, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Got to get ready for the show, but they are even getting pretty brazen about it. I have a cache of stunning quotations that people send me.

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