Paul's Passing Thoughts

…Because they may or may not be of the ‘Elect’

Posted in Uncategorized by Andy Young, PPT contributing editor on May 19, 2015

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  1. Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on May 19, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    A couple other things I noticed in this. The phrase “ministry of the word” is used in Acts 6 in reference to the Apostles not being burdened with having to oversee the distribution to the widows. But ALL believers have the mandate of evangelism, to make “learners” (disciples). Notice the subtle distinction using “ministry of the word” vs “evangelism”, with the implied focus on those in “authority” being the ones responsible for the burden of interpreting scripture. It seems that the intention would be an admonition to pastors/elders rather than the laity. Although the laity, thinking this is an admonition to them, will certainly nod their heads approvingly and mutter, “Oh yes, amen, brother!”

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  2. Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on May 19, 2015 at 3:24 PM

    Sorry, I realized that I neglected to acknowlege the validity of your point. For certain, there is the ever-present need to keep the sheep submissve. So the haughty condescension is rightly noted, you are absolutely right on that! It is amazing how much subtlety can be encapsulated in a short, pithy statement. These things are put out there so that the typical church-goers eat it up, hook, line, and sinker!

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  3. Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on May 19, 2015 at 4:05 PM

    The Reformed, “ministry of the word,” as explained by Johnny Mac at the 2008 T4G is a “savor of life and savor of death” of which both glorify God. One of the comments on the placard was telling: “I just want to say thank you R.C. from the depths of my soul, at this moment for messages like this one, it brings to mind truth that completely takes away burdens.” To which I replied: “You mean, ‘responsibility.'”

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    • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on May 19, 2015 at 4:27 PM

      See how these things are all connected! As I suspected, the aim of statements like these are for other pastors, not us lowly sheep.

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  4. A Mom said, on May 19, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    So R C declares:

    God trusts us (pastors). So should you. We are God’s chosen elect authority. All & every result was already predestined.
    IMO, this msg is for all – to embolden pastors/ elders & to put the rest in their place. Authority & control. A msg that men are not meant to be set free.

    “…truth that completely takes away burdens” from Paul’s comment

    It seems hes been enlightened to not wanting the burden to be removed but rather “truth” makes the burden a joy. This statement from that fellow saddens me, because ordained suffering is also the msg. This guy (& many folks) hear & embrace the ordained suffering component of statements like this one from RC & other religious teachers of fate. This msg shackles the mind to accept & embrace wrong. They need to be set free!

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  5. A Mom said, on May 19, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    I could have been more clear:

    “…truth that completely takes away burdens” from Paul’s comment

    What’s in quotes is not a comment coming from Paul. Paul refers to a statement made by someone else… in his comment. So when I refer to “this guy”, I don’t mean Paul. I’m referring to the person Paul is quoting.

    If it’s now totally confusing, pls read his comment for context! 🙂

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    • Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on May 19, 2015 at 10:27 PM

      It’s ok. You know we cut you slack! It’s like the saying goes: when you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you should do is stop digging. 😉

      Andy

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  6. Ryan said, on May 22, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    I find this statement by R.C. Sproul disturbing but not surprising.

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  7. Ryan said, on May 22, 2015 at 9:08 PM

    Paul et al., I just had another thought. Imagine if this were an engineer or a physician saying this, instead of a pastor. Can you image an engineer or a physician graduating from an institution of higher learning stating something like this? “This university has entrusted in me the ability to build a bridge, but not its quality or stability.” Such a person would be laughed at by their colleagues!

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