Paul's Passing Thoughts

All You Need to Debunk Calvinism is the Lord’s Prayer

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on April 14, 2015

In what is commonly referred to as the “Lord’s Prayer,” we are instructed by Christ to ask for forgiveness from the Father. Who the prayer is addressed to has profound soteriological implications.

Calvinism, and really Protestantism in general, promotes the idea that sin is sin; there is no other perspective on sin other than it condemns. Clearly, Christ is telling us to seek forgiveness from the Father, but on the other hand, the apostle Paul wrote that where there is no law, there is no sin (Romans 3:19, 4;15, 5;13, 7:8, 10:4), so as children of the Father, what are we asking for?

The prayer addresses the Father from whom there is no condemnation for His children (Romans 8:1,34). For those who are not His children, sin does condemn. For those who are in God’s family and born of Him, there can be chastisement for family sin (Hebrews 12:5ff). But for those not in God’s family, sin condemns and our Father is potentially a God of wrath to them.

You are either God’s child or a child of wrath (Ephesians 2:3-5). Obviously, repentance from the sin that condemns can only be a one-time event that cancels out the law’s ability to condemn. You cannot be in God’s family while under condemnation.

These two perspectives on sin are efficacious to a true gospel. One is wrath and condemnation, and the other is love through obedience and possible chastisement for disobedience.

Calvinism clearly teaches a single perspective on the law; the single perspective of condemnation (The Calvin Institutes 3.14.9-11). Therefore, supposedly, Christ came to obey the law perfectly so that the law is continually satisfied. Christians are still under the condemnation of the law, but Jesus’ perfect obedience fulfills the law every time we seek forgiveness for “present sin.”

So, do we ask the Father to forgive us for failing Him, or do we ask forgiveness in order to keep our salvation? How we answer that question determines the validity of our gospel.


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  1. Mike said, on April 14, 2015 at 6:51 PM

    Why then would God give us crowns according to scripture if we are all dead? Can dead men earn crowns? The Incorruptible Crown (mastery over the sin nature), Crown of Righteousness (live righteously in this world ), Crown of Life (proceed in God’s plan for your life while enduring trials), Crown of Joy (influencing others towards righteousness), Crown of Glory (fulfill your calling and finish the work God gave). How do these fit into the Calvinist doctrine?


    • Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on April 14, 2015 at 6:59 PM


      Supposedly, they are really Christ’s crowns. They use the verse in Revelation where the elders throw their crowns at Christ’s feet to make their case. Though I would have to look at your definitions of the crowns a little closer, you have the right idea. The Bible must be interpreted according to justification (gift) or sanctification (reward) being completely separate.


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