Paul's Passing Thoughts

Tonight’s program will be live at 7:00 PM

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on September 12, 2014

Gnostic Nation cut…and a HD video will be added later.

For almost eight years I have been on this journey that led to the TANC research organization. I have been researching and exposing the truth about Calvinism for around four years now in a fulltime capacity, and never has there been a research gift given to me like the following video that will be the topic of tonight’s discussion.

Apparently, this video is viral among Christians in many nations as a positive depiction of the gospel…and that my friends, is stunning.

Also stunning: this video skit is popular among Calvinists and Arminians alike when in fact it represents Calvinist soteriology to a “T.” I have stated many times that there are two kinds of Christians in the institutional church: Calvinists and Arminians who function as Calvinists.

In her book, Quitting Church, Julia Duin states that she has sensed for years that something is seriously wrong with the American evangelical church. We at TANC would suggest that the problem is the false gospel of progressive justification. It was Calvin’s false gospel, but while the election debate rages, in reality, Arminians function by the same false gospel.

And I have never seen anything that illustrates that better than this precious video.

We will be joined in our discussion by teacher Andy Young. See you at 7! If you have streaming problems, the HD video will probably be posted by 8:30 pm. If you would like to ask questions or comment during the discussion, simply post your comments in the comment section of the post.

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  1. Carmen S. said, on September 12, 2014 at 2:05 PM

    I found a comment at an atheist blog asking the question: “Is this made by Christians or against Christians?”

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  2. Andy said, on September 12, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    I can debunk this whole video in 7 words

    BELIEVERS WON’T EVEN BE AT THIS JUDGEMENT!

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    • paulspassingthoughts said, on September 12, 2014 at 2:44 PM

      That debunks it, but the ramifications literally turn every Bible verse from Genesis to Revelation completely upside down.

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  3. Carmen S. said, on September 12, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    http://www.ligonier.org/learn/qas/do-we-stand-god-judgment-upon-death-or-later/

    “We have to make a distinction, as I think the Bible does, between the judgment that we receive immediately upon death, at which we are brought before Christ, and what the Bible speaks of as the last judgment. There’s a reason the Bible refers to the last judgment as the last. That which presupposes that there have been kinds of judgment prior to it.

    “I think there is a preliminary division of the sheep and the goats prior to the final judgment on the last day. Everyone of us will in fact be brought before the judgment throne of God for a final, consummate judgment.”

    So, according to Dr. R.C. Sproul, because there is a last judgment, it has to mean we will ALL have to be there.

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    • paulspassingthoughts said, on September 12, 2014 at 9:16 PM

      Clearly there is more than one judgement in the Bible.

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    • paulspassingthoughts said, on September 13, 2014 at 5:21 AM

      Paul said we will be changed in a blink of an eye…at the rapture preceded by those who sleep in the Lord. The Reformed false gospel of progressive justification can only have one final judgement where we find out if we let Jesus obey for us well enough.

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  4. trust4himonly said, on September 13, 2014 at 7:47 AM

    So also what about everyone like my dad and those before us who have died as Christians? Are they living in paradise with Jesus but yet waiting for the final judgment? What a cruel joke by God then if those Christian believers who are living with God now are to be twiddling their thumbs waiting for their demise at the final judgment. Or do they believe in soul sleep? What is their answer for this? what about the thief on the cross who had no chance to be even thinking, let alone doing any part of the law? How in the world do they explain this? Is he considered an exception?
    Their final judgment construct just does not hold up; there are too many holes left open they would have to explain.

    I would have to say that many just buy into these ridiculous notions just because they are “to come under authority based on the gospel saying so”. I know I bought into some silly things because I was “suppose” to as a Christian.

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    • paulspassingthoughts said, on September 13, 2014 at 8:04 AM

      Moreover, if believers are with Jesus by spirit only, and thereby obviously saved, why stand in a final judgement to confirm the obvious? You said it: their salvation has not yet been confirmed. However, if you just take God’s word at face value, the four judgments all fit together and make perfect sense. This is my beef with discernment blogs: why are we discussing the bad behavior of Calvinists? They don’t even preach a true gospel! Why not have a Wartburg Watch to discuss the bad behavior of Jehovah Witnesses? Same difference. This is why Wade Burleson being the pastor of their echurch is wholly unacceptable–he preaches a false gospel. They are a joke–please quote me accordingly.

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  5. trust4himonly said, on September 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    I agree with you Paul and a reason why as much as I gain info about certain “going ons” of abuse in the ,churches, I don’t put too much stock in how much they ( the discernment blogs) will do to curb abuse in the long run. It is impossible to get the blood stain of bad doctrine out with just using a scour pad and some bleach; the DNA is always left behind. One has to abandon that doctrine altogether.
    And you are right with comparing Calvinism to Jehovah Witnesses; the only thing I have to say about maybe the Calvinists getting a pass with so many, is that they believe in the basics- Jesus being the Son of God, virgin birth, dying on the cross, and raising from the dead. Although, if one looks at Calvinism very close, however, one will find that many believe that one part of the Trinity is more in authority then the other. Basically, the Holy Spirit is the lower rung on the totem pole.

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    • paulspassingthoughts said, on September 13, 2014 at 2:11 PM

      One of pillars of Reformed thought is the supremacy of Christ over the other 2 members of the Trinity. “Solus Christus” means just that, Christ alone.

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  6. Carmen S. said, on September 13, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    It all goes back to Augustine,who couldn’t read Greek,for crying out loud.
    http://www.galaxie.com/article/wtj14-1-02

    John MacArthur ( Rev. Commentary 12-22) page 233
    “Further, both amillennialists and postmillennialists interpret some prophetic events literally, such as Christ’s second coming, the Great White Throne Judgment, and the new heavens and new earth. Why not interpret the millennial kingdom literally? Finally, amillennialists and postmillennialists interpret the nonprophetic portions of Scripture according to the literal, historical, grammatical, and contextual method of hermeneutics; why adopt a different method for interpreting prophecy? Such an adoption is utterly arbitrary.”

    But the reformed do not interpret Scripture grammatically. They allegorize.

    MacArthur included this quote from Dr. William C. Kaiser, Jr. ( President Emeritus & Distinguished Professor of Old Testament and Ethics at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary) page 232
    “Who or what will arbitrate among the various [nonliteral] meanings suggested and decide which are to be accepted as authoritative and which are spurious? Short of saying that every person’s fancy is his or her own rule, there does not appear to be any final court of appeal…There simply are no justifiable criteria for setting boundaries once the interpreter departs from the normal use of language.” ( Back Toward the Future [Grand Rapids: Baker, 1998] 129-30)

    According to Augustine the slaughtering by Moses of the followers of the golden calf was explained as a picture of “mortifying your members which are on earth.” Augustine thought that God’s resting on the seventh day was not historical, but allegorical.

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  7. Lydia said, on September 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM

    “I found a comment at an atheist blog asking the question: “Is this made by Christians or against Christians?”

    Well, that says it all!

    That video might as well be: Doesn’t matter if you are naughty or nice, Santa Claus is coming to town!

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