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A Reformed Myth: Calvinists Believe in Election

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on July 25, 2013

ppt-jpeg4“And this is far from being a John Piper exclusive, this is the Reformed tradition.”

It would seem that something good could be said about Calvinism’s doctrine of election; at least if you are one of the lucky chosen, you are guaranteed eternal life, right? Wrong.

So-called “election” only takes care of original sin, you must now continue to live by faith alone in your Christian life so that the perfect obedience of Christ continues to be imputed to your account. The specific terms for this are “Christ 100% for us” and “already not yet.” Since Calvinists see justification and sanctification as the same thing, “100%” means Christ must perform all works in both justification and sanctification.

John Piper preached a series entitled, “How Does the Gospel Save Believers?” Did you know believers still need to be saved? In the series he explains how we are already saved but not yet:

We are asking the question, How does the gospel save believers?, not: How does the gospel get people to be believers? When spoken in the power of the Holy Spirit, the gospel does have power to open people’s eyes and change their hearts and draw them to faith, and save them. That’s what is happening on Tuesday nights and Wednesday nights this summer. People are being drawn to Christ through the power and beauty of the gospel. But I am stressing what Paul says here in verses 16 and 17, namely, that “the gospel is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes.” Believers need to be saved. The gospel is the instrument of God’s power to save us. And we need to know how the gospel saves us believers so that we make proper use of it.

So, did you know that believers need to make “proper use” of the gospel in order to be “saved” as believers? And this is far from being a John Piper exclusive, this is the Reformed tradition. Piper’s next statement defies the imagination in regard to how mind numb people must be at Bethlehem Temple:

I say it with Paul: I, John Piper, am eager to preach the gospel to you who believe – exactly to you who believe – because this gospel which is laid out in the book of Romans, is the power of God to save you. You believers need to hear the gospel in order to be saved. And Paul labors mercifully for 16 chapters to tell us the gospel and how it works to save believers.

Well, this should be a crude awakening in regard to what Calvinists mean when they say, “We must preach the gospel to ourselves every day.” They mean this as a matter of eternal life and death for the believer.

And so it goes: election isn’t the issue, the gospel of progressive justification is the issue, and besides that, Calvinists don’t even believe in election to begin with.


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  1. […] A Reformed Myth: Calvinists Believe in Election. […]


  2. paulspassingthoughts said, on July 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Reblogged this on Clearcreek Chapel Watch.


  3. Abe said, on July 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Whoa, John Piper knows nothing. When Paul the apostle said that he wanted to preach the Gospel to them there in Rome too, it wasn’t for calvinism’s precepts, but it was because he was being given the Word of God by God, to share with the world, now found in the Book of Romans.

    Piper just basically confirmed that he is unsaved until he xyz, and the xyz will depend on the specific person that you are talking to.

    John 3:16 means nothing to these people.

    They don’t teach the true Gospel, and if they haven’t believed it, then they are unsaved people.


  4. lydiasellerofpurple said, on July 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Paul, can you put the Tanc 2013 vids on your side bar? I am referring many people to them and they are hard to find.


    • paulspassingthoughts said, on July 25, 2013 at 7:46 PM

      Ok, I put a link there.


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