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Piper’s Tweet: Evangelicals Don’t Understand That He is Talking About Our Children Too

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on May 23, 2013

ppt-jpeg4“What’s the attractiveness of this philosophy? Simply, an escape from dealing with real life and responsibility in general.”

There is a lot of discussion among evangelicals (who don’t consider themselves New Calvinists) about John Piper. This is not unusual; we evangelicals love to talk about things we know nothing about. In regard to Piper’s heartless tweet concerning the little children who died in Moore, Oklahoma, evangelicals sit back and ponder why he would attempt to reach out to the lost in this way. What they don’t understand is he’s talking about our children too. All evangelicals can apply the principle of the same tweet to your child dying as a result of you fill in the blank.

Reformed theology is grounded in ancient paganism. It flows from the following basic construct:

1. Metaphysics. The material is evil, only spirit is good.

2. Epistemology. Truth cannot be obtained empirically. It must be obtained through some sort of gateway into the spiritual; usually contemplationism of some sort.

3. Ethics. Determined by the spiritual, and manifested by birthing the spiritual into the material realm.

4. Politics. The enlightened rule over the unenlightened masses on behalf of the spiritual. The masses are in bondage to empirical epistemology.

American evangelicals do not see the line in the sand that should be there. New Calvinism is a return to the same Gnosticism that plagued the first century church and even infiltrated Judaism. It has little patience for those who cling to the material in any way. And that includes children. The ability to dress up Gnosticism in biblical garb and its tsunami-like overtaking of Christianity mirrors what was going on in the first century church to a “T.”  In New Calvinism:

1. Metaphysics: The idea that God will renovate heaven and earth with fire and dwell with us eternally in the same basic form that we perceive at this time is an abomination. Hence, Christ will not really dwell on David’s throne literally, Abraham wasn’t really looking for a literal city built by God, etc. It’s all allegory because it’s contradictory to basic Gnostic metaphysics (the idea that God would value a sliver of geography called “Israel” is an absurd notion to the average Gnostic). This is why Christians commonly think the Bride of Christ is the church and that we will dwell in heaven eternally.

2. Epistemology. ALL REALITY is interpreted by contemplating the personhood of Christ. Some call this “gospel contemplationism.” The Bible is a gospel meta-narrative (meta-narrative metaphysics) for contemplation purposes, not grammatical interpretation of reality. This is the basis of the Redemptive Historical hermeneutic.

3. Ethics. Manifested in the “flesh realm” by the imputation of Christ’s perfect life lived on earth, and a natural outflow of gospel contemplationism. New Calvinists call this, “The imperative command is grounded in the indicative event.”

4. Politics. Reformed enlightened elders rule over the unenlightened masses in order to “save them from ignorance” (Al Mohler). Adherence to Reformed elder rule and orthodoxy is one’s best chance to arrive at the final judgment covered by Christ’s obedience. As God’s rulers they also have the authority to declare someone saved or unsaved.

What’s the attractiveness of this philosophy? Simply, an escape from dealing with real life and responsibility in general. Contemplating  the gospel and disregarding the material enables us to stand back and observe our lives without emotional attachment. Our only responsibility is to live by faith alone, and by the way, John Piper makes faith absolutely synonymous with joy. This is the premise of his Christian Hedonism philosophy. Therefore, the death of children leads to joy because it shows us the utter worthlessness of this present material world. This is also the thesis of Paul David Tripp’s How People Change: ALL events in life are preordained in order to contribute to gospel contemplationism resulting in spiritual fruit. See the chart below taken from a CCEF workbook based on the same book (click on to enlarge):

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And another chart from the actual book:

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To Luther, this meant a cycle of deaths and rebirths leading to joy—tragedy enables us to empty ourselves and eradicate connections with the present cares of this material world. Here is how one New Calvinist stated it:

What, then, is the subjective power of this message? Firstly, we find that there is real, objective freedom, the kind that, yes, can be experienced subjectively. We are freed from having to worry about the legitimacy of experiences; our claims of self-improvement are no longer seen as a basis of our witness or faith. In other words, we are freed from ourselves, from the tumultuous ebb and flow of our inner lives and the outward circumstances; anyone in Christ will be saved despite those things. We can observe our own turmoil without identifying with it. We might even find that we have compassion for others who function similarly. These fluctuations, violent as they might be, do not ultimately define us. If anything, they tell us about our need for a savior.

That’s it in a nutshell. And it explains Piper’s heartless tweets down to a gnat’s eyebrow. He has no patience for anyone who entangles themselves in the material world. They are  ignorant.

Christians better get a grip on this. This is not mere disagreement on obscure biblical ideas—this is a completely different way of looking at reality that has wreaked havoc on mankind for thousands of years.

paul

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  1. A Mom's avatar A Mom said, on May 31, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Words have meaning. They must in order for communication to occur. Paul is totally, 100% correct to identify Barba’s double speak. She used “totally depraved” twice in the same sentence, as if they have two different meanings. Last time I checked the dictionary, totally meant 100%. So I’ll use 100% interchangeably with totally, to help make it clear.

    from Barba’s post: “most Calvinst would not subscribe to the idea that believers continue to be totally depraved in the same sense as are the unregenerate”

    So, let’s see… believers are “100% depraved”, but not in the same sense as the “100% depraved” unregenerate – WOW. How many senses/types/kinds of 100% depravity are there? Apparently, total depravity comes in 50 shades of gray ((which I have not read and have no interest in reading).
    I think she has unwittingly highlighted another unending loop of brain-washing nonsense within Calvinism. Communication based on the real definition of words, as a basis for discussing anything, does not seem to be their goal. Words are constantly being redefined by many Calvinists, even in the same sentence. Look for slight-of-hand tactics when it comes to: words and their defined meaning vs. how they are being used to explain their belief system. Your eyes will be opened.
    In all seriousness, the people who may be confused out there, who are trying to wrap their brains around Calvinism… you can breathe a sigh of relief. It’s not you.
    They hope you eventually put your brain on the shelf, give up and concede you are… 100% depraved. Many Calvinist leaders want you to think that you are a more 100% depraved Calvinist than they are. They are the more gifted less 100% depraved Calvinist. So they make the rules and call the shots. You must get their permission. Do we see a pecking order construct here AKA total depravity?
    I believe total depravity of the “saints” has been adopted as a way for control-freaks to control the sheep. Calvin was a control-freak. The flock must be prodded and disciplined. I ask, “Why?” How can a saint be accountable and disciplined if they are 100% depraved? Even worse, God decided their actions would be evil? If there is any disciplining to do, shouldn’t Calvinist leaders get to the root of the problem and discipline God instead? One more question, how can a 100% depraved leader even have the ability to discipline anyone else? There’s a double standard going on here.
    Oops. I forgot the 50 shades of total depravity rule. Don’t question the smarter, more intelligent less 100% depraved Calvinist leader. Discipline the dumber more 100% depraved Calvinist followers. Did I get the 50 shade rule & double speak right?

    Brothers & sisters, don’t be fooled. Do not follow anyone who thinks they are 100% depraved and says you are also. Seriously think, would you trust your children with someone who tells you they are totally depraved? If you are on the fence about that one, the facts out there should scare you into reality. Would you run to a bank with your money if they advertised themselves to be totally depraved?

    Saints are not 100% depraved. They are born again. They can please God. They are washed in the blood of Christ. They are free to obey God’s commands. Free to do what’s right. Free to think with the brain God gave. Free to love. Free to commune with the Lord. Free to do any good thing. And can with the help of their God-given conscience and Holy Spirit, who dwells within. Isn’t that freeing?

    Calvinists must make one of two choices. Their love trumps their theology, or their theology trumps their love.

    There’s a post out there by a loving, right-doing, inconsistent Calvinist (Wade Burleson) titled “When Love trumps Theology” which correctly rebukes Piper’s 100% depraved tweet about children dying in the OK tornado. Wade puts his Calvinistic theology & his 100% depravity aside to love, and rightly so, but he should ditch it permanently. Please understand, if you must put Calvin’s theology (or any belief system) on a shelf in order to do good and right things, it’s time to re-think your theology. Something is very wrong with it. Biblical theology and true love work together, walk hand in hand, & cannot be separated. More simply put, the God of the Bible and love are one in the same.

    If you’re theology trumps love, like Piper’s does, then it’s not from the Bible. If you’re okay with that – I fear for you.

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