Heretic David Platt: Don’t Go to Hell Their Way; Go to Hell My Way
Moses: The anti-Calvin
“….which doesn’t see justification as a finished work that cannot be affected by sanctification.”
This may be a shock to you, but heretic David Platt has a new book out. Is anybody keeping a running score on this? Who is ahead? I think John Piper has written about 600 books; where does Platt measure up to that? Is Kevin DeYoung like second or third? The promotional trailer follows after my commentary. In the classic Reformed either/or metaphysical interpretive prism, he insinuates that you either know what he knows about salvation, or you are one of those minions of the present Dark Age of Synergistic Sanctification. And you also think people are saved by the mindless citation of a prayer. If you don’t believe what he believes—that’s you. You believe that you have led someone to Christ just because you got them to recite a prayer.
That’s what Platt means by Follow Me. “Follow me” really means meditating on what Jesus has done rather than anything that we do resulting in Christ’s life and obedience being imputed as a substitute for our obedience in sanctification. Emptying ourselves means to look at all of life as a way to make us smaller and the cross bigger. Got rape? Awesome! What could be more useful in humbling us in the death we deserve and being resurrected by the fruits of Jesus? And not to mention forgiving our rapist to show the world that we forgive the way Jesus forgave us. We are all just sinners saved by grace and if not for the mercy of Jesus—I would also be a rapist, so who am I to judge? Point being: don’t be deceived into thinking that Platt really believes that following Jesus means learn and do. He means meditate and watch. That’s how we get to heaven by faith alone in sanctification; which doesn’t see justification as a finished work that cannot be affected by sanctification.
And that’s ironic because he cites Matthew 7:21-23 to make his point. But what is the context of that text? Those who don’t learn and practice have houses built on sand and no assurance of salvation; ie., what Platt propogates. Learning, and “jumping from the command to obedience” is…. “obeying in our own efforts.” Following Jesus really means learn and watch.
Him and is heretic book-writing buddies can deny this all they want to, but it’s called: “the imperative command is grounded in the indicative event.” It’s a Reformed tradition, and invites the words, “Depart from me you who work anomia (anti-law [those who don’t learn and do]), for I never knew you.
Moses told us how to choose life or death. Or, how to choose a house built on sand or a house built on a rock. Once splattered with blood, the word is near to us, and in us, and not too difficult for us to obey. This is the opposite of the “centrality of the objective gospel outside of us.” The word is NOT in us, and it is most certainly TOO HARD for us to obey—Jesus must do it for us, or you are not living by faith alone.
So, don’t go to hell the way Biblicists supposedly go to hell—go to hell David Platt’s way.
paul
Paul's Passing Thoughts 
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I really could not handle any more of his going on and on. I have heard all this when I was growing up but in the fundamentalist church- “You can’t wear pants” “You must not listen to rock music” OR you will be in danger of going to hell. YET, these same men were doing far worse then listening to rock music. Yeh, Yeh….David Platt, it may be worded a little differently, but it is the same formula. He is saying UNLESS, you are following THIS way then you are in danger of not knowing Christ. Oh right, follow David Platt right into the arms of Reformed Theology. Forget the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in each and everyone of our lives, forget correct Biblical discipleship in guiding a new believer. No this new believer must be SOLD OUT and ready to go…..and oh yes, trained in the proper theology of RC SPROUL, Jonathan Edwards, Calvins institutes, Augustine, Mark Driscoll, Luther, CJ Mahaney, John MacARthur, D A Carson, Arthur Pink, Mark Dever, Matt Chandler, John Piper, and on and on and on……
Forget Christs gift on the cross to each and every believer that once they have called on the name of Jesus Christ and believe in Him – he shall be saved. All religions have conditions before their quote on quote “Salvation”. Christ was different- there are no conditions except for belief- FAITH. David Platt has put conditions and yes, it is so deceptive because it appeals to our human need to fix the problem and want perfection. What more will a David Platt lay out that a “so-called Christian” (in David Platts book) must do in order to say that he is really a FOLLOWER of Jesus Christ? What are the parameters David? Are you now in position to be the “pope” or the popes lackey and determine what is enough? You guys are a real piece of work!! Thankfully many are seeing the outright hypocrisy when you guys can come out with these books calling us out YET, we have church after church leaders abusing the very children of God AND hurting the very witness of Jesus Christ to the lost who need to know that they can JUST CALL on the name of Christ and He will listen to them and save their very souls!
As you can tell Paul I am mad at this one…….
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Another thing- Don’t these guys ever get sick of hearing themselves talk and talk……..?
Ad Nauseum
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Platt cites Matthew 7:21-23, against himself as it turns out. Since his lordship salvation false gospel would have him saying, “Lord, have we not done all these things in Your name for our justification?”
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Abe,
They believe we have to live by faith alone in sanctification to maintain our justification. But to your point–it’s works salvation just the same.
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Two people I knew very well made professions of faith. Their lives changed not in the slightest during the rest of the years that I knew them. For instance, they showed no interest in reading the Bible, gathering for worship, or even talking about God. Leaving aside Calvinism for the moment – are you guys saying that you believe that saying a prayer or making a profession of faith always means that that person is now a believer? I don’t think you believe that, but I’m not sure.
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Jeff,
I think I am pretty clear on this in our Romans study. A convert needs to believe in the gospel of first importance; ie, the death, burial and resurrection, and then the ramifications accordingly. We die with Christ along with our slavery to sin, and are then raised to slavery in regard to righteousness. Converts need to know that following Christ means to be His bond-slave to righteousness. The death, burial, and resurrection of Christ means the old self dies and the new creature follows Christ. Platt wouldn’t know the gospel if you painted on a 2×4 and smacked him in the face with it.
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“Leaving aside Calvinism for the moment – are you guys saying that you believe that saying a prayer or making a profession of faith always means that that person is now a believer? I don’t think you believe that, but I’m not sure.’
How do you know Piper is saved? Because he claims it and makes his living as a professional believer telling others how to be one? Is that how it is done?
As a new believer grows in Holiness and matures it becomes obvious they were Justified and are in sanctification. The problem is in both liberal and Calvin traditions, that is not necessary…… to actually behave as a believer, grow in Holiness, die to self, etc. Some get by with pretending it, writing books about it, etc, but have black hearts like Mahaney who is about himself. Driscoll, anyone seeking power, fame and and control over others.
What we need to do is stop thinking these gurus whether Calvinist or seeker celebs are a result of Christianity.
So, what do you think makes a real believer? I personally think Calvinists make fun of certain ways this is done publicly but what is the Calvinist way? Tell a pastor? Get affirmation from him with counseling? (that is what I have seen). Some of my Presbyterian friends have told me their pastor tells them when they are believers.
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Salvation has always been “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:31). Nowhere in scripture do we see any of the apostles having people “pray this prayer for salvation”. I’m sure when the Philippian jailer took Paul and Silas to his home that they took the time to preach the full counsel of God to him and his house so that their faith came by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. To simply have someone pray a prayer and tell them they are going to heaven without having any understanding of what they just did is clearly not going to bring about salvation. Clearly we all agree on this. But that is the straw man that Platt is setting up to affirm his own version of works salvation.
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“But that is the straw man that Platt is setting up to affirm his own version of works salvation.”
That’s right. Platt attacks the “we prayed a prayer” strawman, to promote his false gospel of works. In essence, Platt attacks the true Gospel found in places like John 3:16, in order to promote his own false gospel.
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Okay, I got it. Thanks.
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You guys must be Joel Osteen fans…
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Anon, Take your either/or duelist psychobabble somewhere else.
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