Paul's Passing Thoughts

Why Calvinists Have No Understanding

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on January 10, 2013

ppt-jpeg4Think “colabor.” And by the way, that’s a biblical word. It should be understood that salvation is completely of the Lord. In our day, it’s just best to leave it at that though some finer points could be argued. Election is what it is, but I think it not a good idea to draw logical conclusions that lead to hardcore determinism. The apostle Paul evangelized like it depended on us to some point—that’s irrefutable. At any rate, if God didn’t make a way for reconciliation—there wouldn’t be any. So, should He get all the glory? Absolutely. Does that mean we have no role at all? I doubt it.

But one thing is clear: the Christian life is a colaboring with God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Our role is learn and do. That’s what a “disciple” is. And one of the doings, perhaps the most important one, is….THINKING.

Throughout the Bible, the colaboring of God and the Christian is seen. Unlike salvation and justification, the Christian life (sanctification) is full of conditions, promises, commands, encouragement, warnings, and instruction. If you take note in your daily Bible reading, you will see this colaboring concept throughout. Perhaps the most profound is 2Timothy 2:7. Here is what the apostle Paul said to Timothy:

Think over what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.

The Lord will give us understanding, BUT, we have to THINK. No thinking—no understanding. To say that Christians in our day believe that God will give us understanding without thinking is quite the understatement.

Clearly, in Reformed circles, the elders think for the parishioners, and the elders get their information from a bunch of Calvinistic dead people, also known as “orthodoxy.” Even when Calvinists do pick-up their own Bibles to read they are anticipating that God will show them “pictures of Jesus” in every verse. Look, those are John Piper’s very words, not mine. Bible reading in Reformed circles has become always been like watching TV; you just watch and let your brain chemicals to the rest. As you read, Jesus will show Himself and whatever Jesus shows you will be imputed to your life because Jesus came to live for our sanctification and die for our justification. The death and resurrection was for our justification, but His life prior to the cross was for our sanctification.

Also implicit in Paul’s charge to Timothy is the fact that Paul expected people to verify for themselves what he taught. Let me show you a picture since we like them so much: When Susan and I are discussing Reformed issues with people while enjoying the perplexity on their faces as we accuse the big names of heresy, this question often follows: “So, who do you follow?” Initially, Susan and I were too shocked at the response to even answer. The question is, at times, also followed by, “You can’t say that about him—he has a lot of followers.”

Not sure I can add to that point. Have a wonderful colaboring day in Christ.

paul

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  1. Paul M. Dohse Sr.'s avatar paulspassingthoughts said, on January 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Reblogged this on Clearcreek Chapel Watch.

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  2. Andy's avatar Andy said, on January 10, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    The “thinking” John Piper and the rest of the reformed big dogs want us to do is actually nothing more that some for of mystical contemplationism, which is new age heresy. Their interpretation of 2 Timothy 2:7 would have us empty our minds of everything and just “meditate” on Jesus and eventually we will “get understanding”. This is pure new age mysticism! O how they love to spiritualize verses out of context!

    But since I can read AND THINK, I can read the entire context of chapter 2 and see that Paul is charging Timothy to remain faithful to the things he was taught and to be strong, to fight a good fight! He then uses 3 metaphors to illustrate this. And then in verse 7 Paul concludes the illustration by basically saying “You know what I mean? Do you get it? I trust that God will help you understand what I’m talking about with these illustrations.”

    These guys get so caught up analyzing the trees that they completely miss the forest!

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr.'s avatar paulspassingthoughts said, on January 10, 2013 at 11:57 AM

      Andy,

      You ought to see some of the stuff Susan has for the conference. She has Hindu literature that is instruction for daily contemplationism. If you take out “Sun” and replace it with “Bible” it is like almost word for word from Reformed writings.

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  3. Brad's avatar Brad said, on January 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Seems pretty clear you misunderstand Calvinism and reformed teaching.

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr.'s avatar paulspassingthoughts said, on January 10, 2013 at 1:48 PM

      Thank you Brad, thou philosopher king. You have spoken, and I found wanting: “So let it be written; so let it be done.”

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  4. Andy's avatar Andy said, on January 10, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    Wow, imagine that, another drive-by Calvinist who accuses us of not understanding Calvinism. Sorry, Brad, unfortunately we understand Calvinism far too well, thank you very much.

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr.'s avatar paulspassingthoughts said, on January 10, 2013 at 7:14 PM

      Andy,

      What kills me is their authority supposedly rests in who they are: “Seems pretty clear….” ie, if it is “clear” to one of them–end of discussion–thou has spoken. No argument from the authority of Scripture is needed, their unction is supposed to knock our will flat because they are the enlightened ones. Gag, makes me ill.

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