Paul's Passing Thoughts

A Pictorial Answer to Such a “Reasonable” Reformed Question

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on November 20, 2012

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  1. paulspassingthoughts said, on November 20, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Reblogged this on Clearcreek Chapel Watch and commented:

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  2. Anonymous said, on November 21, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    Paul – in my time in the reformed church, I was taught and agreed that through our faith we are saved (justification and salvation done – complete) and we then begin our lifelong journey of santification as we learn and grow in our knowledge and faith. When I view the chart I have always interpreted it in the same way that I interpreted my college education – the more you learn the more you realize what you don’t know. In that same way, the more I know of our father, the more ugly and selfish my sins look to me. I have never been taught any more than that and I believe the chart makes a good point in that regard. If there is a deeper meaning than what I have presented I have not heard it.


    • paulspassingthoughts said, on November 21, 2012 at 2:08 PM


      Your perfectly reasonable sounding statement is the bait that hooks people into the lie. The chart is indicative of the founding principle of Reformed theology: knowledge of good and evil. Read the first sentence of book one in the Calvin Institutes. Hence, deeper knowledge of those two things define both (reality) and continually glorify God. But the Scriptures make it clear that God is most glorified by us becoming more like Him and displaying that to the world, not a deeper self-realization of our own potential evil. Moreover, if we aren’t guilty of certain depths of evil, to ascribe ourselves to it is not the truth. Therefore, this is just one of the primary pillars of biblical metaphysics that Calvinism turns completely upside down. And the implications are chilling: without evil, wisdom cannot be obtained. That is a precedent that has given birth to horrific episodes throughout human history.


  3. trust4himonly said, on November 21, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Hence Paul we can look at Scripture – right?

    Philippians 4:7-8

    New King James Version (NKJV)

    7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

    8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.

    If we were to look upon our sin all the time we would not be thinking on these things, now would we?

    The Calvinist then is no different then the Catholic- in the past many monks and nuns would hole up in monasteries and caves, contemplating on their sin- flagellating and starving themselves to scourge their sin. Asceticism was a common practice among the Catholics.
    Also we see that Calvin made sure that those in Geneva focused on their sin as well.


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