A 4-Point Evaluation of Ligon Duncan’s Defense of SGM
I would then encourage you to ignore the assaults of wounded people on attack websites and blogs, and that you discount the opinings of those who have no real knowledge of these matters or relation to SGM or authority to comment upon them, and that you refrain from assuming that you (or they) are in a position to render judgment on these things.
1. I would then encourage you to ignore the assaults of wounded people on attack websites and blogs,: He admits they are wounded, but that’s not the point. The totally depraved don’t deserve justice. Furthermore, getting raped isn’t the point, how that event glorifies God in the predestined scheme of the gospel meta-narrative is the point. By not accepting the event and seeking justice, the “wounded” are not “entering into the plot” of showing forth the gospel.
2. and that you discount the opinings of those who have no real knowledge of these matters or relation to SGM: The knowledge of the philosopher kings is so much higher than yours, that even when it seems obvious that abuse occurred and it was covered up, that’s not really what’s going on. Please trust the higher knowledge of your local Reformed pastor king.
3. or authority to comment upon them,: Only the pastor kings have authority to speak to these matters. Anybody who speaks out is messing with God’s anointed who have been given all authority on earth.
4. and that you refrain from assuming that you (or they) are in a position to render judgment on these things.: Only the philosopher kings can render judgement. The producers have no role in judging, they are the church’s producers. In America, Reformed elders have to fill the role of both philosopher king and soldier. And much to their frustration, there are laws that protect the producers. They must improvise because they are deprived of the stake and the gallows. Instead, they offer formal counseling where they can earn your trust and get documentation on your secret sins that can be used to blackmail you into silence or control if needed. This is one of many alternative controls they have contrived. It’s the exact one that CJ Mahaney used on the co-founder of SGM who attempted to leave SGM for doctrinal reasons.
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“Furthermore, getting raped isn’t the point, how that event glorifies God in the predestined scheme of the gospel meta-narrative is the point. By not accepting the event and seeking justice, the “wounded” are not “entering into the plot” of showing forth the gospel.”
Wow…you hit the nail right on the head…this is an honest and frank evaluation. It’s just a shame that these men are the way they are. (All of your 4 points are a direct hit.)
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And then you also have the problem that these guys, Duncan, Mohler and Dever have shared stages with Mahaney for years, promoted him and his books. They LIKE his brand of shepherding cult. They want the same power. The victims have to be wrong. There is no other way.
Their hearts are cold, folks. It is about power, prestige, being right and having followers. They make a total mockery of Jesus Christ and what He is all about. They ARE the Nicolaitans. Make no mistake about it.
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Duncan and the others haven’t opened their mouths about the lawsuit launched by some of the “wounded people.” Why don’t they “encourage” us *now* to “ignore” them? Could it be that they get a little scared when the wounded avail themselves of legal means?
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“I would then encourage you to ignore the assaults of wounded people on attack websites and blogs, and that you discount the opinings of those who have no real knowledge of these matters or relation to SGM or authority to comment upon them, and that you refrain from assuming that you (or they) are in a position to render judgment on these things.”
This quote makes me ill every time I see it. I just gotta say that his ignore the wounded encouragement reminds me of a certain story in Luke 10~
31 “And by chance a priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.”
And as far as discounting opinings…he says we should do that if they have no REAL knowledge or any relation to sovgracemin.org. Does he have REAL knowledge? I would think REAL knowledge lies with the key players, and “relation to SGM” would, imo, surely mean a bit more than just standing on stage together at conferences. Does he have a real relation to SGM? I don’t see how he can. Since he does not have any REAL knowIedge, I will be happy to submit to and obey 🙂 his third admonition and refrain from assuming that he is in a position to render any judgment on these things…his opining is dismissed.
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