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“Why Southern Baptist New Calvinists Don’t Like Jesus in our Children’s Hearts”: a Bedtime Story.

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on July 10, 2012

Monster Under the Bed

I have a great Facebook friend who always reposts the choice articles floating around the internet. My writing time is limited, but every now and then he reposts something that I cannot pass on. I already knew about the David Platt kerfuffle concerning the dissing of “asking Jesus into our hearts,” but this particular article followed Platt’s cue without leaving out the children. After all, Jesus said not to prevent the little children from coming to him in case they are among some that he has chosen. Ya, let all of them come; the little runts he hasn’t chosen will find out soon enough that they never had a prayer, but nevertheless, those who pray for salvation anyway should at least do so correctly lest they offend God even more.

The article was written by New Calvinist Jared Kennedy and posted on Church Leaders .com. The article is predicated on nine reasons to not teach children to ask Jesus into their hearts. Now granted, I object to Southern Baptists, of which I am one, incessantly deemphasizing what they think is the fine print of salvation: repentance. There is too much Jesus as Savior only, and not Jesus as Lord AND Savior. Yes, and I say again, “yes,” many Southern Baptist child converts fall away because they know Jesus as Savior only, and do not also realize that he also came to destroy the works of the Devil. The cross not only makes that possible, but that being one of Christ’s purposes for going to the cross should at least get an honorable mention in our lives. In case you missed it—that’s de-emphasis for purposes of emphasis in my ever failed attempt to beg folks not to teach a half gospel—especially to children. I think we often exclude the “repent” in the “Repent and…. [believe]” for fear that the recipient of the good news will not deem the “repentance” part as such (good news).

By the way, I never get to teach children anymore because my favorite lesson is the one where God sent the two momma bears to maul a group of children for mocking one of God’s prophets. I always add the little caveat that since the mommas mauled all of them (if I remember correctly, 42) they must have tracked down the ones who had initially gotten away throughout the night, and probably in their cozy beds while savoring their supposed getaway. Southern Baptist parents are usually aghast towards teaching things like that about God to children lest they think they can make God angry in some way via bad behavior or disobedience.

But back to Kennedy. From here, I must launch on a comment by one of my Southern Baptist brethren in regard to the article: “What’s going on?” Being Southern Baptist; 10% tithe; rededicating your life; at least twice, Southern Baptists not knowing what’s going on: priceless. Well, here is the Cliff Notes on what’s going on. You can fill in the blanks with the 80 gigs of electronic data I have accumulated to back up my thesis. I will tell it as a bedtime story. Maybe that will work.

Why Southern Baptist New Calvinists Don’t Like Jesus in our Children’s Hearts:

A Bedtime Story by Paul M. Dohse

Once upon a time, there was a man named Johnny Calvin. He had a great, great grandfather named Auggie. Johnny’s double great granddaddy was faithful to the wicked witch of the west, Queen Catholic. Both Auggie and the Queen believed man could not find God without them. Auggie believed it because a magic doggie named Pluto told him man cannot know reality without striving to find it beyond what we can touch, see, and hear. Auggie learned from Pluto that those who come to see reality through thinking really hard thoughts should rule over those who think reality can be understood by observation. But either way, people are very, very naughty, even those who see reality.

Therefore, Auggie made up his own bedtime story about how all of reality is Jesus [the objective gospel], and Jesus, and what he does, always stays outside of us because Jesus is reality and good, but we are always naughty. Pluto the magic doggie also had puppies who grew up and taught that Jesus didn’t really come as a man because spirit is good, and things that we can touch, see, and feel are naughty like us.

Eventually, Auggie’s descendants, Johnny and Martin, liked this idea, but didn’t like the Queen because she said that she could be the only enlightened one to rule over all of the naughty people who can’t know good things. However, they continued to revere their double great granddaddy even though he served the Queen till the end of his life. Also, Johnny and Martin didn’t like it that the enlightened Queen thought that Jesus does good things inside of people if they are a member of her empire, pay their dues, and drink her magic grape juice. It made them angry that she believed Jesus does good things inside of naughty people. Jesus must always stay outside of us [the Reformation gospel of The Centrality of the Objective Gospel Outside of Us].

So, Johnny and Martin started their own empire called the Reformation. Like their double great granddaddy, they believed the enlightened ones must rule over the totally naughty. If the totally naughty devoted their life to realizing more and more how naughty they are, what Jesus does outside of them will look bigger and bigger. But many of the totally naughty couldn’t help themselves. In fact, a little girl shoved her mommy so Johnny cut off her head.

And that’s what David Platt will do to you if you ask Jesus into your heart.

The End.

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  1. Paul M. Dohse Sr.'s avatar paulspassingthoughts said, on July 10, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Reblogged this on Clearcreek Chapel Watch .

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  2. trust4himonly's avatar trust4himonly said, on July 10, 2012 at 3:40 PM

    What other monsters are hiding under that bed?….hmmmm.

    Ok Paul this one is a big one for me – children actually wanting Jesus in their hearts- gasp…. Really?? Can children actually be saved without knowing the Westminister Confession or the Nicenes Creed or the Institutes of Calvin? Maybe the Calvinists are themselves scared that a child could actually get it better then they ever could? Why did Jesus single out the children in this way- was it because they have a simple, trusting faith that actually believed what Jesus said? Well somehow this is what did it for me. I was nine when I went forward in an altar call and yes, gasp again…..I asked Jesus in my heart… Do I now hear the moans and groans from the Reformed crowd? I must not be a part of the elect.

    I know my standing in the Lord, but guess what? I lost that knowing when I went to a Reformed church. I was in doubt for 2 years- the worse time I had ever gone through spiritually. I will never enter those doors again if I can help it. I was even told in a small group that Jesus could not be our friend- we are always to look at Him as Sovereign. Of course we are to look at God as Sovereign and holy, but also Jesus is our Counselor, Friend, Abba Father. God gave us the Holy Spirit to LIVE NSIDE of us not outside of us. This was the main reason I fled the Reformed Church.

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  3. Paul M. Dohse Sr.'s avatar paulspassingthoughts said, on July 10, 2012 at 4:33 PM

    T4H,
    Robert Brinsmead did the church a huge service by creating the chart that I copy on page 43 of TTANC. That illustration is the crux of Reformed theology–everything must answer, no matter how it is worded, to THE CENTRALITY OF THE GOSPEL COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF US [IN SALVATION ALSO]. There is only one thing that can make that prism work, and one thing only: Gnosticism. This is what their problem is with Jesus being in our hearts, and that’s the bottom line.

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  4. trust4himonly's avatar trust4himonly said, on July 10, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    Yes what a “nice” chart for us “unregenerates” to a grasp on the inner workings of New Calvinism. Actually, very helpful- thanks Paul for posting it. Also thank you for book – almost finished and I meant to thank you earlier. Very good info. – this site has been very helpful in seeing the How??? and the Why??? behind New Calvinism.

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  5. Lin's avatar Lin said, on July 10, 2012 at 9:55 PM

    Great method by the way…story telling to present difficult concepts. One reason is all the definitions are different with Calvinists so talking about it people rarely get it. A Calvinist could ague a dog off a meat truck over one word defintion.

    Ok, I read this the other day on a blog and could not believe it. A woman was telling people about her friends church that has a Reformed pastor. Here is how he taught the kids. He brought in a sack of blue and red socks. And He played God. As God, he took out all the red socks and said that by Grace they are saved. Not because they are special or anything just because that is who he chose and we are not to question God. The blue socks…well. Nothing. They stay sinners. She said this woman was appalled.

    No soup for you is pretty much how it works out.

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    • pauldohse's avatar pauldohse said, on July 11, 2012 at 6:45 AM

      Lin, But yet the same pastor would never deny outright that prayer doesn’t change things.

      > —–Original Message—– >

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  6. gracewriterrandy's avatar gracewriterrandy said, on July 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

    Perhaps someone can show me the Scripture where anyone is commanded to “let Jesus come into their heart.” Line from a popular “gospel” song of days gone by, but never commanded in Scripture. Stick to the Scriptures and stop defending trite slogans of yesteryear. Let Jesus come into your heart is not the gospel for anyone. Try using biblical language for a change.

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  7. gracewriterrandy's avatar gracewriterrandy said, on July 16, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    Lin,

    Might not hurt you to study the Bible. You can’t just focus on your “free will” verses. Read the ones that deal with sovereign grace as well. You can’t just ignore them. I know you don’t like them, but they are there.

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  8. gracewriterrandy's avatar gracewriterrandy said, on July 16, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    Still waiting on that verse that commands sinners to “let Jesus come into their hearts.”

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  9. trust4himonly's avatar trust4himonly said, on July 17, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    Still waiting for verses that say specifically “limited atonement, total depravity, irresistable grace, supralapsarianism, complementarianism etc.”

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