Paul's Passing Thoughts

Four Questions on the “Three Gospels” Slide Show

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on August 11, 2011

1. From which gospel did the term, “We [Christians] are [present tense] sinners saved by grace” ?

2. From which gospel did the “backslidden Christian” come from?

3. From which gospel did the mantra “We must preach the gospel to ourselves everyday” come from?

4. Time for your New Calvinist friends to fish or cut bait: “Which gospel do you claim?”

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  1. PDuggie's avatar PDuggie said, on August 11, 2011 at 4:20 PM

    I can’t help but notice the similarity of “We [Christians] are [present tense] sinners saved by grace” to Luther’s Simul Iustus et Peccator.

    we grow in holiness, but I guess the view is that there is never any ‘righteousness’ that we have inherently. depends on definitions I guess.

    Any thoughts on how similar this sounds to Luther. Luther can be wrong, of course, but its hard to convince people they get the gospel of sanctification wrong if they seem to be parroting luther.

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    • pauldohse's avatar pauldohse said, on August 11, 2011 at 9:21 PM

      PDuggie,

      It is my understanding that Luther had a very passive view of sanctification in the beginning, but later changed his views during the antinomian controversies that erupted while he was still alive.

      paul

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  2. Bill's avatar Bill said, on August 13, 2011 at 9:04 PM

    Question 1: We (Christians) are (present tense) sinners saved by grace” = GOSPEL 1

    Question 2: “backslidden Christian” = GOSPEL 2

    Question 3: “We preach the gospel to ourselves everyday” = GOSPEL 1

    Question 4: “Which gospel do you claim?” = GOSPEL 3

    Arkansas Bill

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    • pauldohse's avatar pauldohse said, on August 13, 2011 at 10:00 PM

      Bill,

      Well done, you get an A+! But now everyone knows the answers!

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  3. Bill's avatar Bill said, on August 14, 2011 at 7:44 AM

    post test

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  4. Unknown's avatar Anonymous said, on August 15, 2011 at 11:50 AM

    lol thanks bill

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  5. PDuggie's avatar PDuggie said, on August 15, 2011 at 1:05 PM

    fair enough on Luther. I’d like to see more. It seems official lutheranism enshrined an “earlier” Luther then, in some of their disputes.

    also, thought i should point you to Bill Evans’ criticism of Tchividjian on ref21.

    http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2011/08/sanctification-and-the-nature.php

    But since ref21 is a T4G friendly site, Sean Lucas pushes back a bit.

    http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2011/08/a-rejoinder-on-sanctification.php

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  6. Bill's avatar Bill said, on August 15, 2011 at 10:13 PM

    Paul and PDuggie,
    I
    T-shirt AD:
    “In a time when there is an increasing push for Christians to please God with their own works, this shirt helps push back in the understanding that Christians remain sinners, even in faith, and continue to need the perfect works of Jesus imputed to them since all our works will always be as “filthy rags” to God. The only thing that we have to offer to our salvation is our sin.
    END

    Arkansas Bill

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    • pauldohse's avatar pauldohse said, on August 16, 2011 at 5:57 AM

      Woe Bill–are you kidding me? Do you have a link?

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  7. Bill's avatar Bill said, on August 15, 2011 at 10:19 PM

    AD for a T-Shirt :
    New Reformation Press

    “This shirt bears one of Dr. Martin Luther’s most well-known phrases, “Simul Iustus et Peccator” or “At Once Justified and Sinner” (also commonly translated as “Simultaneously Sinner and Saint”).

    Arkansas Bill

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  8. Bill's avatar Bill said, on August 16, 2011 at 6:12 AM

    Paul,

    Problem -Posting has been deleting most entrees. It doesn’t take anything with that link in it. I’ll try tricking.

    Interesting, below is an AD for a T-Shirt :
    http://www(dot)newreformationpress(dot)com/clothing-apparel/tshirts/simuliustus-tshirt(dot)html

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  9. Bill's avatar Bill said, on August 16, 2011 at 6:19 AM

    Paul and PDuggie,

    I’ll try posting again without the link here. The problem of no posting appears to be the link.

    A little more of the AD copied.

    Interesting, below is an AD for a T-Shirt :
    From the New Reformation Press Website
    Second to last paragraph is classic New Calvinist.

    ADVERTISEMENT:

    “This shirt bears one of Dr. Martin Luther’s most well-known phrases, “Simul Iustus et Peccator” or “At Once Justified and Sinner” (also commonly translated as “Simultaneously Sinner and Saint”).

    Being baptized into Christ’s death and resurrection, the sinner is declared blameless, Jesus’ righteousness being imputed to the sinner’s account for Jesus’ sake. This concept of justification is the core of the Gospel rediscovered in the Reformation of the 16th century.

    In a time when there is an increasing push for Christians to please God with their own works, this shirt helps push back in the understanding that Christians remain sinners, even in faith, and continue to need the perfect works of Jesus imputed to them since all our works will always be as “filthy rags” to God. The only thing that we have to offer to our salvation is our sin.

    But in Christ, you can remain confident that God sees Christ’s merit in your stead. Wear this simple, yet powerful, message and spread the good news of the Gospel.”

    Arkansas Bill

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    • pauldohse's avatar pauldohse said, on August 16, 2011 at 6:24 AM

      Bill, I will look for it in the “Moderation” of my admin.

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  10. Paul M. Dohse Sr.'s avatar paulspassingthoughts said, on August 16, 2011 at 6:29 AM

    Nice. Got to go–will jump on this later.

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