Yes, he does say that. How can he be in the need of the cross still? Didn’t the events that took place at the cross happen only once? Some 2,000 years ago? Seriously, Chandler has a split persona. On one shoulder is an angel and on the other is Calvin, fat and in drag and reading his demonic Institutes on a Kindle. Fancy that!
I repeat: These charlatans and enemies of God do NOT know what it means to be born again. They belong to a cult, a cult that is operating in full view of the world.
At 28 seconds, he says “progressive SANCTIFICATION”–is this synonymous with progressive justification? (But I do agree he is spouting the erroneous common protestant mantra of believers being wicked depraved sinners.)
Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on July 2, 2017 at 9:58 PM
Lisa, upon listening to it closer, he does say “sanctification,” not justification. No, the two are not the same, but according to the true gospel they are completely separate and have totally different relationships to the law. In Protestantism, and we have all said it, “sanctification is the growing part of salvation.” Um, salvation doesn’t grow. The new creature grows, but salvation doesn’t grow. Salvation is a onetime completed work. John Calvin specifically referred to sanctification as a “twofold” or “double” grace. In other words, one part of the twofold salvation of justification and sanctification. So, in Protestantism, as one Protestant put it,”sanctification is justification in motion.” In other words when it is all said and done here, two half dozen is same as a dozen.
So, if I just say the “Sinner’s Prayer” every morning as soon as I wake up — and at bedtime, just in case — does that make it “all good”? (sarcasm off tag) The “sinner saved by grace” refrain OR “we’re all just sinners” refrain is a deeply rooted, thoughtless, mindless, robotic type of response. Why do these folks rarely, if ever, say things like “I am a new creation in Christ Jesus” or “I am growing in obedience and holiness and spiritual maturity”? Why not? Because that isn’t their reality and because that isn’t their truth.
Andy Young, PPT contributing editor said, on July 3, 2017 at 10:55 AM
Because you need to do all those things under the guidance and direction of the local church, otherwise you are doing it in your own strength. See, they have an answer for everything!
Someone needs to start a “Jackasses for Jesus” organization. The “reformed” already have things close to it but let’s call it what it is. Time for some truth in advertising with these smug, condescending, elitist, heretical jerks.
John Piper (I still maintain he is mentally unbalanced or at the very least comes across as a really bad actor when he “preaches”) could preside and Matt Wonder Boy” Chandler here, could have a meaningless title too. So he could be one of the “first among equals” and not immediately have something to pout about. Who’s with me? ;^)
“Why do these folks rarely, if ever, say things like “I am a new creation in Christ Jesus” or “I am growing in obedience and holiness and spiritual maturity”? Why not? Because that isn’t their reality and because that isn’t their truth.”
My time around them at ground zero showed me that they cannot teach that because it strips them of their power. Nothing scares them more than people’s Independence.
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Yes, he does say that. How can he be in the need of the cross still? Didn’t the events that took place at the cross happen only once? Some 2,000 years ago? Seriously, Chandler has a split persona. On one shoulder is an angel and on the other is Calvin, fat and in drag and reading his demonic Institutes on a Kindle. Fancy that!
I repeat: These charlatans and enemies of God do NOT know what it means to be born again. They belong to a cult, a cult that is operating in full view of the world.
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Straight from the horse’s mouth. Kinda hard to nuance that. Just put it out there and let these guys’ own words condemn them!
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Where to end with this? He also calls salvation (how many times can you blaspheme in one vid?),”atonement.” Their sin is only covered, not ended.
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At 28 seconds, he says “progressive SANCTIFICATION”–is this synonymous with progressive justification? (But I do agree he is spouting the erroneous common protestant mantra of believers being wicked depraved sinners.)
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Lisa, upon listening to it closer, he does say “sanctification,” not justification. No, the two are not the same, but according to the true gospel they are completely separate and have totally different relationships to the law. In Protestantism, and we have all said it, “sanctification is the growing part of salvation.” Um, salvation doesn’t grow. The new creature grows, but salvation doesn’t grow. Salvation is a onetime completed work. John Calvin specifically referred to sanctification as a “twofold” or “double” grace. In other words, one part of the twofold salvation of justification and sanctification. So, in Protestantism, as one Protestant put it,”sanctification is justification in motion.” In other words when it is all said and done here, two half dozen is same as a dozen.
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My opinion is they don’t really differentiate between justification and sanctification. You are too busy preaching the Gospel to yourself every day.
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So, if I just say the “Sinner’s Prayer” every morning as soon as I wake up — and at bedtime, just in case — does that make it “all good”? (sarcasm off tag) The “sinner saved by grace” refrain OR “we’re all just sinners” refrain is a deeply rooted, thoughtless, mindless, robotic type of response. Why do these folks rarely, if ever, say things like “I am a new creation in Christ Jesus” or “I am growing in obedience and holiness and spiritual maturity”? Why not? Because that isn’t their reality and because that isn’t their truth.
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Because you need to do all those things under the guidance and direction of the local church, otherwise you are doing it in your own strength. See, they have an answer for everything!
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Someone needs to start a “Jackasses for Jesus” organization. The “reformed” already have things close to it but let’s call it what it is. Time for some truth in advertising with these smug, condescending, elitist, heretical jerks.
John Piper (I still maintain he is mentally unbalanced or at the very least comes across as a really bad actor when he “preaches”) could preside and Matt Wonder Boy” Chandler here, could have a meaningless title too. So he could be one of the “first among equals” and not immediately have something to pout about. Who’s with me? ;^)
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“Why do these folks rarely, if ever, say things like “I am a new creation in Christ Jesus” or “I am growing in obedience and holiness and spiritual maturity”? Why not? Because that isn’t their reality and because that isn’t their truth.”
My time around them at ground zero showed me that they cannot teach that because it strips them of their power. Nothing scares them more than people’s Independence.
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Right, an empowered child of God needs no one and answers to no one but the Father…A HUGE problem for collectivist tyrants.
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