His communication seems to be so overwhelmed with trying be appear extra-enlightened that whatever he is trying to say is lost in all of his pansophistry. UGH.
I think ‘preaching’ is altogether different than teaching – at least to the preacher. I’m wondering what scripture says about preaching verses teaching. Maybe Paul has some ideas about that. I no longer tolerate emotionalism and hype from a pulpit. It sends me over the edge – glazed eyes and all 😶
I think ‘preaching’ is altogether different than teaching – at least to the preacher. I’m wondering what scripture says about preaching verses teaching. Maybe Paul has some ideas about that. I no longer tolerate emotionalism and hype from a pulpit. It sends me over the edge – glazed eyes and all 😶
I can’t understand Piper when he reads verses from the Bible in a sermon. His voice and arm waving distracts me to the point of not being able to hear the words.
Just a few thoughts on what the Bible says on “preaching” vs “teaching”.
Last time I checked, there was no gift of “preaching”. However, there are the gifts of “teacher” (Romans 12:7, 1 Corinthians 12:28) and “pastor-teacher.” (Ephesians 4:11). The purpose of gifts are for the edification of the body, that is BELIEVERS, the ekklesia, the assembly, so that we may be equipped to do the work of the ministry. So teaching is for believers so that we may be equipped to go out and “preach” to the lost.
“Preaching” is the Greek word κήρυγμα (kay-roog-ma), and it simply means a proclamation. It is generally used to describe what we do as believers to deliver the good news of salvation to the unsaved.
“For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.” ~ 1 Corinthians 1:21
“But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;” ~ Titus 1:3
“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!” ~ Romans 10:13-15
That is where my thinking has brought me to regarding teaching and preaching. If I think about it logically, preaching is not what was happening when believers gathered in thr NT. Believers gathered for teaching, encouraging, singing, and breaking bread. I don’t think someone stood in front of the group at a podium and delivered a letter from Paul or Peter with screaming and waving arms. Nor do I believe (as can be seen in the letters) that the “believers” were declared depraved over and over again. They didn’t gather to be preached to as though they were unbelievers — which is what I so often felt like when I left a sermon. Many of today’s preachers treat believers as if they are still unbelievers.
What I think that this reveals is that they have forgone “teaching” altogether and just resorted to “preaching”. This should be telling since they believe we are all depraved sinners anyway in continuous need of saving. So it makes perfect sense that they would be preaching to us rather than teaching.
Paul's Passing Thoughts 
His communication seems to be so overwhelmed with trying be appear extra-enlightened that whatever he is trying to say is lost in all of his pansophistry. UGH.
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He is saying sanctification contains the saving acts of justification and we participate in that.
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Yes, I got his double speak which he would deny or requalify when confronted.
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…and then there is that as well.
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Argo –
I think ‘preaching’ is altogether different than teaching – at least to the preacher. I’m wondering what scripture says about preaching verses teaching. Maybe Paul has some ideas about that. I no longer tolerate emotionalism and hype from a pulpit. It sends me over the edge – glazed eyes and all 😶
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Argo –
I think ‘preaching’ is altogether different than teaching – at least to the preacher. I’m wondering what scripture says about preaching verses teaching. Maybe Paul has some ideas about that. I no longer tolerate emotionalism and hype from a pulpit. It sends me over the edge – glazed eyes and all 😶
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I can’t understand Piper when he reads verses from the Bible in a sermon. His voice and arm waving distracts me to the point of not being able to hear the words.
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Just a few thoughts on what the Bible says on “preaching” vs “teaching”.
Last time I checked, there was no gift of “preaching”. However, there are the gifts of “teacher” (Romans 12:7, 1 Corinthians 12:28) and “pastor-teacher.” (Ephesians 4:11). The purpose of gifts are for the edification of the body, that is BELIEVERS, the ekklesia, the assembly, so that we may be equipped to do the work of the ministry. So teaching is for believers so that we may be equipped to go out and “preach” to the lost.
“Preaching” is the Greek word κήρυγμα (kay-roog-ma), and it simply means a proclamation. It is generally used to describe what we do as believers to deliver the good news of salvation to the unsaved.
“For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.” ~ 1 Corinthians 1:21
“But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;” ~ Titus 1:3
“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!” ~ Romans 10:13-15
Just my two cents.
Andy
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So, if I understand you correctly, a word study reveals that they have made teaching and preaching the same thing.
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Andy –
That is where my thinking has brought me to regarding teaching and preaching. If I think about it logically, preaching is not what was happening when believers gathered in thr NT. Believers gathered for teaching, encouraging, singing, and breaking bread. I don’t think someone stood in front of the group at a podium and delivered a letter from Paul or Peter with screaming and waving arms. Nor do I believe (as can be seen in the letters) that the “believers” were declared depraved over and over again. They didn’t gather to be preached to as though they were unbelievers — which is what I so often felt like when I left a sermon. Many of today’s preachers treat believers as if they are still unbelievers.
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Paul,
What I think that this reveals is that they have forgone “teaching” altogether and just resorted to “preaching”. This should be telling since they believe we are all depraved sinners anyway in continuous need of saving. So it makes perfect sense that they would be preaching to us rather than teaching.
Andy
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Good point Andy–very good point. And for some reason, I am no longer being alerted concerning comments is moderation. When did you post this?
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Bridget,
You echoed my very sentiment!
Andy
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