Paul's Passing Thoughts

On Women Pastors: New Calvinists Making Joyful Obedience Difficult

Posted in Uncategorized by Paul M. Dohse Sr. on February 7, 2012

Whether John Piper or John MacArthur, we are now hearing how the Christian life is always “sweet, never bittersweet,” and obedience receives its moral certification when accompanied by joy. As Piper also pontificates: the true love behind a kiss is not in the duty, but in the exhilaration. And then this profundity by Francis Chan: “When it feels like work—it’s work, but when it feels like love—it’s love.”

But these guys are making it hard for me to feel the love on the issue of women being pastors. They are paid millions to communicate truth, but yet, the following videos are examples of what we get.

John Piper versus Marilyn Quayle

During the time that Dan Quayle was Vice President, the second lady was interviewed by Barbara Walters on 20/20. Walters asked her if she held to a literal interpretation of the Bible. Quayle, without hesitation, simply answered, “yes,” and said no more. Walters, taken aback by the simple and straightforward response, rephrased the question: “So, you think the Earth was created in six days and the animals really boarded Noah’s ark two by two?” Quayle, without any hesitation, simply answered, “yes,” and sat silently awaiting Walters’ response. There wasn’t any, and an uncomfortable silence followed that didn’t seem to faze Quayle in the least.

Now watch these two interviews with Piper:

Tim Keller Versus the Housewife on the Oprah Winfrey Show

Watch for the women in the white shirt towards the end of the clip:

Francis Chan Versus Anita the Street Preacher

Hey Steve,  you’re a New Calvinist hypocrite because your New Calvinist  pals don’t know either, and Anita is a better preacher than Francis.

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  1. Randy in Tulsa's avatar Randy in Tulsa said, on February 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    “Instead, God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things that are powerless to shame those who are powerful.”

    Thanks for the reminder about Marilyn Quayle.

    Oh how we need straight, plain, simple preaching of the truth by those who really do know the scriptures.

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  2. Aaron's avatar Aaron said, on August 30, 2017 at 6:31 PM

    Fyi chan and piper dont get paid millions. Thats extremely disengenuous. Piper takes an average salary of about 70k despite others wanting to pay him more. Chan earns millions off his book royalties and gives most away. Go pick on Rob Bell or NT Wright with the new perspective on Paul. Chan and Piper are godly examples of pastors.

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    • Paul M. Dohse Sr.'s avatar Paul M. Dohse Sr. said, on August 30, 2017 at 6:58 PM

      We usually moderate ignorance, but for some reason I will indulge this evening. Susan and I have attended several Neo-Protestant conferences and have observed their life-styles up close and personal. Piper et al don’t stay at the Holiday Inn and eat at Wendy’s during these conferences and they aren’t for anyone making less than a 100k per year. By the way Aaron, would you be interested in some oceanfront property I am selling here in Xenia, Ohio?

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