John Piper: You’re Either With Us, or You’re With Rome
“Piper is an antinomian false teacher who has the audacity to proclaim, in essence, “You are with us (the New Calvinists), or you are with the Roman Catholics.”
Let’s take some time here to chat about how John Piper thinks he’s the elder statesmen of a modern-day resurgence of the original Reformation. Truly, his ego cup runneth over.
First, as established in “The Truth About New Calvinism,” Piper and his arrogant horde got their doctrine from the Australian Forum. The Forum believed the following about what the true issue of the original Reformation was: Rome separated justification and sanctification, and thereby “infused grace” into the believer via the new birth. The new birth constituted a righteousness that was inside of us, or a righteousness that we actually possessed within us. Supposedly, the Reformation reclaimed “the objective righteousness of Christ completely outside of us.”
To believe that we have an actual righteousness imparted to us through the new birth is supposedly to believe that our participation in sanctification can maintain and finish justification. In other words, the Reformers supposedly believed that sanctification had to maintain justification and finish it. Of course, mortals cannot do that. Supposedly, the Reformers believed that Christ not only died so that we could be justified, but He lived a perfect life for us also, so that His obedience could be imputed to us for sanctification, which can now complete justification because it is Christ’s works and not ours that is being presented. The Forum believed that living by faith is to constantly present the works of Christ to the Father to maintain justification, and not our own imperfect righteousness.
But the premise is false, and evangelicals believe that justification does not have to be maintained. We believe that justification is a onetime declaration that guarantees glorification (Romans 8:30). And the full righteousness of God has been credited to our account based on our faith ALONE in what Christ accomplished on the cross, and His resurrection. Evangelicals believe that sanctification can’t change that—it’s past tense—it’s a completely done deal. Evangelicals and old Calvinists alike utterly reject an infusion of sanctification and justification.
The truth of the matter is that the infusion of sanctification and justification is the bases for almost every false doctrine known to man because it leaves you with two alternatives only: First, faith alone justifies us and wipes out all of our past sin, but now our standing has to be maintained by what we do in sanctification, either by work or ritual. The other alternative is to say that Jesus ALONE does sanctification for us because everyone knows we are not even going to be faithful in the easier option of ritual to maintain justification; this second option is a Jesus obeys for us antinomianism.
Again, evangelicals don’t believe that justification has to be maintained or completed by sanctification. However, the Forum was formed to develop a systematic theology that made sanctification by Jesus alone for the purpose of completing justification plausible. They also taught ecciesia reformata semper reformanda which holds to the idea that the Reformation was not finished with Luther and Calvin.
The following charts might help to clarify the issue:
The following montage from the Forum’s theological journal confirms what they thought about the original Reformation and the new birth:
Then it happened. One of the original members of the Australian Forum did a series of lectures on the Reformation at Southern Theological Seminary. Piper, who usually stays aloof from his ties to the Forum—couldn’t help himself. He wrote an article about it:
Desiring God blog, June 25, 2009: Goldsworthy on Why the Reformation Was Necessary.
In the article, Piper shows his full agreement with the Forum on their ridiculous Reformation motif and false doctrine:
This meant the reversal of the relationship of sanctification to justification. Infused grace, beginning with baptismal regeneration, internalized the Gospel and made sanctification the basis of justification. This is an upside down Gospel.
In case one would think that Piper excludes evangelicals from this concern because of his mention of baptismal regeneration, consider what he said in the same article: “I would add that this ‘upside down’ gospel has not gone away— neither from Catholicism nor from Protestants….” Piper, like all New Calvinists, insists that justification and sanctification have a “relationship” (infusion), and of course, they reject the idea that we help in the completion of justification; that’s a “reversal” of the two and an “upside down” gospel. They therefore hold to option B: Jesus obeys for us antinomianism.
Piper also states in the same article:
When the ground of justification moves from Christ outside of us to the work of Christ inside of us, the gospel (and the human soul) is imperiled. It is an upside down gospel.
Like the Forum, Piper rejects the new birth as having anything to do with a righteousness that is possessed by the believer. This explains the continual pontification by New Calvinists that believers are no better off than the unregenerate. Paul David Tripp describes believers as dead and unable to do anything. Piper also got the “upside down gospel” phrase from the Forum. In fact, it was one of the major themes of an issue in their theological journal as can be observed below. BUT, also note that they even exclude a righteousness imparted to us by Christ within, and Him doing the work! In fact, to believe that Christ is doing the work within us “imperils(ed)” the soul!
Like the Forum, Piper lumps evangelicals together with Rome in the same article:
In it [Goldsworthy’s lecture at Southern] it gave one of the clearest statements of why the Reformation was needed and what the problem was in the way the Roman Catholic church had conceived of the gospel….I would add that this ‘upside down’ gospel has not gone away—neither from Catholicism nor from Protestants.
Piper is an antinomian false teacher who has the audacity to proclaim, in essence, “You are with us (the New Calvinists), or you are with the Roman Catholics. While Piper puts on the whole humbleness and wisdom of Yoda act, he is one the most arrogant and deceitful false teachers in recent church history.
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Paul,
You asked, “Again, if the infusion is into sanctification, how does that change the ground of justification?”
It changes the ground of justification if we posit that what is true if sanctification is actually true of justification. In sanctification, God does impart a holiness [personal righteousness if you will] that becomes the believer’s own. For justification, God imputes to believers a righteousness that is not our own. Nothing changes the ground of justification, but we must preach and teach this distinction accurately or we will be guilty of teaching a false gospel that falls under the curse of Galatians 1:8.
I urge you to consider again the following from Ryle on Holiness.
Holiness: Its Nature, Hindrances, Difficulties, and Roots J. C. Ryle
In what, then, are justification and sanctification alike?
(a) Both proceed originally from the free grace of God. It is of His gift alone that believers are
justified or sanctified at all.
Holiness: Its Nature, Hindrances, Difficulties, and Roots J. C. Ryle
(b) Both are part of that great work of salvation which Christ, in the eternal covenant, has
undertaken on behalf of His people. Christ is the fountain of life, from which pardon and holiness
both flow. The root of each is Christ.
(c) Both are to be found in the same persons. Those who are justified are always sanctified, and
those who are sanctified are always justified. God has joined them together, and they cannot be put
asunder.
(d) Both begin at the same time. The moment a person begins to be a justified person, he also
begins to be a sanctified person. He may not feel it, but it is a fact.
(e) Both are alike necessary to salvation. No one ever reached heaven without a renewed heart
as well as forgiveness, without the Spirit’s grace as well as the blood of Christ, without a meetness
for eternal glory as well as a title. The one is just as necessary as the other.
Such are the points on which justification and sanctification agree. Let us now reverse the
picture, and see wherein they differ.
(a) Justification is the reckoning and counting a man to be righteous for the sake of another,
even Jesus Christ the Lord. Sanctification is the actual making a man inwardly righteous, though
it may be in a very feeble degree.
(b) The righteousness we have by our justification is not our own, but the everlasting perfect
righteousness of our great Mediator Christ, imputed to us, and made our own by faith. The
righteousness we have by sanctification is our own righteousness, imparted, inherent, and wrought
in us by the Holy Spirit, but mingled with much infirmity and imperfection.
(c) In justification our own works have no place at all, and simple faith in Christ is the one thing
needful. In sanctification our own works are of vast importance and God bids us fight, and watch,
and pray, and strive, and take pains, and labour.
(d) Justification is a finished and complete work, and a man is perfectly justified the moment
he believes. Sanctification is an imperfect work, comparatively, and will never be perfected until
we reach heaven.
(e) Justification admits of no growth or increase: a man is as much justified the hour he first
comes to Christ by faith as he will be to all eternity. Sanctification is eminently a progressive work,
and admits of continual growth and enlargement so long as a man lives.
(f) Justification has special reference to our persons, our standing in God’s sight, and our
deliverance from guilt. Sanctification has special reference to our natures, and the moral renewal
of our hearts.
(g) Justification gives us our title to heaven, and boldness to enter in. Sanctification gives us
our meetness for heaven, and prepares us to enjoy it when we dwell there.
(h) Justification is the act of God about us, and is not easily discerned by others. Sanctification
is the work of God within us, and cannot be hid in its outward manifestation from the eyes of men.
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I AM NOT GOING TO PARTAKE IN CIRCULAR ARGUMENTS THAT GO ROUND AND ROUND. THE DATA IN THE POST SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. BESIDES, THE FACT THAT PIPER THINKS HE IS A MODERN-DAY REFORMER SHOULD BE ENOUGH ALONE FOR PURPOSES OF REJECTION. COMMENTS ON THIS POST ARE NOW CLOSED.
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Paul–
Almost all of this is badly misinformed. Go into self-exile for two or three years like the original Paul and when you return from your sabbatical in Arabia, perhaps you will be worthy of engagement with the outside world.
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Oh, thank you so much for this comment which I will be using as an example in our morning Bible study. Oh, and by the way, ordinarily your comment would not be posted for the following reason: https://paulspassingthoughts.com/2015/07/22/ppt-moderation-policy/ Thirdly, oh wise one, you are invited to appear live at our next Bible study to backup your comment with objective facts. Email us at mail@tanc.online to receive instructions for doing so.
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